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9 hours ago, JamJar said:

Which panel member mate?

Apparently there might have been an attempt to influence other panel members. If there's doubt about impartiality I think the club is right to appeal.

 I'm not saying our lot behaved perfectly. but how would you feel if someone received the death penalty on the balance of probability'.

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1 hour ago, Chris P Oak said:

Apparently there might have been an attempt to influence other panel members. If there's doubt about impartiality I think the club is right to appeal.

 I'm not saying our lot behaved perfectly. but how would you feel if someone received the death penalty on the balance of probability'.

That’s barking.  If there was even the tiniest scintilla of evidence for that you would be going for judicial review.

Different Courts require different standards of proof so your second point is also bollocks. The Servco Tax Case was decided on balance of probabilities. Ever heard of the man on the Clapham Omnibus testy as opposed to The Falkirk Omnishambles?

Like your principal witness you are  just making things up.  Get your excuse of a board to set out in a press release  the real grounds of their appeal and gives us all a laugh. Chances are it will be kicked out straight away as groundless but no doubt the making of the appeal is simply part of a PR spin to try and conceal the true level of your board’s incompetence.

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4 hours ago, Chris P Oak said:

Apparently there might have been an attempt to influence other panel members. If there's doubt about impartiality I think the club is right to appeal.

 I'm not saying our lot behaved perfectly. but how would you feel if someone received the death penalty on the balance of probability'.

That's irrelevant. There is a different burden of proof in criminal cases (and, of course, we don't even have the death penalty in Scotland). The balance of probabilities would be the standard of proof in a case such as this. 

Why would there be a doubt over impartiality? 

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2 hours ago, Branch Ton said:

That’s barking.  If there was even the tiniest scintilla of evidence for that you would be going for judicial review.

Different Courts require different standards of proof so your second point is also bollocks. The Servco Tax Case was decided on balance of probabilities. Ever heard of the man on the Clapham Omnibus testy as opposed to The Falkirk Omnishambles?

Like your principal witness you are  just making things up.  Get your excuse of a board to set out in a press release  the real grounds of their appeal and gives us all a laugh. Chances are it will be kicked out straight away as groundless but no doubt the making of the appeal is simply part of a PR spin to try and conceal the true level of your board’s incompetence.

Like the incompetence of removing a clause to get you compensated in the event your management team fucks off? 

Thats a wholly bizarre thing to do, imagine offering poorer employment terms that sports direct. Absolute riddy. 

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That’s barking.  If there was even the tiniest scintilla of evidence for that you would be going for judicial review.
Different Courts require different standards of proof so your second point is also bollocks. The Servco Tax Case was decided on balance of probabilities. Ever heard of the man on the Clapham Omnibus testy as opposed to The Falkirk Omnishambles?
Like your principal witness you are  just making things up.  Get your excuse of a board to set out in a press release  the real grounds of their appeal and gives us all a laugh. Chances are it will be kicked out straight away as groundless but no doubt the making of the appeal is simply part of a PR spin to try and conceal the true level of your board’s incompetence.
None of the sensible Falkirk fans want our board to get let off the hook for fucking this up. Whats clear is that we wpuld have got McKinnon anyway simce he wanted away ASAP and he required to give you no notice. So your amateur legal eagle speak is really just standard "old man yells at cloud" stuff.

Whats also clear is that you are a fucking rocket and for that reason, none of the sensible Morton fans are having anything to do with you.

Still, at least you dont have to share whatever puddle you are drinking out of.

Maybe take a step back from making an arse of yourself and concentrate on another few decades of turgid football and remaining a Scottish Football place filler.
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5 hours ago, Chris P Oak said:

Apparently there might have been an attempt to influence other panel members. If there's doubt about impartiality I think the club is right to appeal.

 I'm not saying our lot behaved perfectly. but how would you feel if someone received the death penalty on the balance of probability'.

And who might have influenced the panel?

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4 hours ago, Branch Ton said:

That’s barking.  If there was even the tiniest scintilla of evidence for that you would be going for judicial review.

Different Courts require different standards of proof so your second point is also bollocks. The Servco Tax Case was decided on balance of probabilities. Ever heard of the man on the Clapham Omnibus testy as opposed to The Falkirk Omnishambles?

Like your principal witness you are  just making things up.  Get your excuse of a board to set out in a press release  the real grounds of their appeal and gives us all a laugh. Chances are it will be kicked out straight away as groundless but no doubt the making of the appeal is simply part of a PR spin to try and conceal the true level of your board’s incompetence.

So, why can't new evidence be used at an appeal then?

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1 hour ago, ShaggerG said:

So, why can't new evidence be used at an appeal then?

Because there won't be new evidence your lot broke the rules you got found out and they are playing for time before Morton make their next move.

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1 hour ago, gmfc said:

Because there won't be new evidence your lot broke the rules you got found out and they are playing for time before Morton make their next move.

You obviously don't know the back story and have decided to type some random pish.

A Falkirk fan typed some days ago that he believed that some new evidence was to come out. Yer man Branchton informed us all that new evidence couldn't be used in an appeal. I'm just asking him why but he appears to be reluctant to tell me for some reason. 

Incidentally, why would Falkirk 'play for time'. What would that achieve exactly?

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29 minutes ago, ShaggerG said:

You obviously don't know the back story and have decided to type some random pish.

A Falkirk fan typed some days ago that he believed that some new evidence was to come out. Yer man Branchton informed us all that new evidence couldn't be used in an appeal. I'm just asking him why but he appears to be reluctant to tell me for some reason. 

Incidentally, why would Falkirk 'play for time'. What would that achieve exactly?

The evidence is in black and white and no amount of Falkirk fans who are saying there is new evidence is going to change it. The SFA are NEVER going to overturn a Scottish League decision. And the sooner the fantasist within the Falkirk support except it the better.

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1 minute ago, gmfc said:

The evidence is in black and white and no amount of Falkirk fans who are saying there is new evidence is going to change it. The SFA are NEVER going to overturn a Scottish League decision. And the sooner the fantasist within the Falkirk support except it the better.

So why can't new evidence be used in an appeal?

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7 minutes ago, ShaggerG said:

So why can't new evidence be used in an appeal?

So this is been running now for nearly 6 months and Oh all of a sudden new evidence has been found get real.

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5 minutes ago, gmfc said:

So this is been running now for nearly 6 months and Oh all of a sudden new evidence has been found get real.

Didn't say that any new evidence has been found.

Why would new evidence not be allowed to be used at an appeal and why would Falkirk try to play for time?

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2 minutes ago, ShaggerG said:

Didn't say that any new evidence has been found.

Why would new evidence not be allowed to be used at an appeal and why would Falkirk try to play for time?

Basically you can only appeal on a point of law, not on a point of fact. You had your chance and the original tribunal’s findings of fact are quite explicit. You need to show the Tribunal erred on a point of law. 

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1 minute ago, Branch Ton said:

Basically you can only appeal on a point of law, not on a point of fact. You had your chance and the original tribunal’s findings of fact are quite explicit. You need to show the Tribunal erred on a point of law. 

They are done out the park and it Will cost them more than 40k when Morton take their course of action.

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I fail to see the point in us appealing the decision as little is going to change, it’s fairly clear we tapped up. In terms of this ‘new evidence’ it’s likely to be used for a separate, more serious, enquiry into the goings on behind the scenes at Morton. What happened that ultimately led to McKinnon being desperate to leave.

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