Ad Lib Posted June 6, 2015 Share Posted June 6, 2015 If that's the case sofia... ^ Seems to think that suicide is a taboo and somehow less worthy a death than one precipitated by a long hopeless torment. It's not necessarily his opinion as he's correctly pointing out that there is a huge stigma related to suicide in our society. Whether you agree with that or not is irrelevant really. Thanks for confirming the point I was making. It's pretty clear you were suggesting that Ad lib held that view. No its not & how do you know he doesn't? Care to explain what the f**k you were posting about here then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sophia Posted June 6, 2015 Share Posted June 6, 2015 Sophia is a known idiot. My best friend growing up's dad committed suicide when he was 18. It's very obvious why that is much much more difficult to deal with. Their family had a lot of difficulty dealing with the thoughts that their dad just didn't love them enough to stay around and watch them grow up.. Graduate.. Get married.. Have kids etc. Now obviously it's not that simple. But its an entirely understandable mindset for people to fall into. A sudden death through heart attack or hemorrhage is something tragic of course... But there isn't any reasonable sense of abandonment. I too feared the worst when I heard the news and was glad it turned out not to be suicide. This is just the shallow understanding of the subject that pervades and its a shame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ad Lib Posted June 6, 2015 Share Posted June 6, 2015 This is just the shallow understanding of the subject that pervades and its a shame.Are you trying to suggest it isn't understandable why a 10-year old boy in our society might feel those emotions of rejection or abandonment more strongly if he thought his dad had committed suicide rather than died of a sudden and involuntary failure of his vital functions?Literally no one here is saying that stigma is desirable or right. All that is being said is that it exists and could make the grief of this tragic loss more difficult for a 10-year old boy to come to terms with. In much the same way as it is entirely understandable why a gay teenager might self-harm because of the social stigma and stress surrounding coming out, even though it should, for any right thinking person, be as matter of fact a question as what cereal you had for breakfast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_B Posted June 6, 2015 Share Posted June 6, 2015 This is just the shallow understanding of the subject that pervades and its a shame. As is normally the case the facile stupidity in the thread is provided by.. You. Quite why you seem to lack the emotional intelligence to get your pea brain around the concept of suicide of a patriarchal figure as abandonment is alarming to be honest. Not surprising but alarming nonetheless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sophia Posted June 6, 2015 Share Posted June 6, 2015 As is normally the case the facile stupidity in the thread is provided by.. You. Quite why you seem to lack the emotional intelligence to get your pea brain around the concept of suicide of a patriarchal figure as abandonment is alarming to be honest. Not surprising but alarming nonetheless. Not the point I was making. Please refrain from the insults, it does you no credit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crùbag Posted June 6, 2015 Share Posted June 6, 2015 It is a proposal by them which will no doubt be supported by the nanny state What does this mean? Care to explain it to me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted June 6, 2015 Share Posted June 6, 2015 As is normally the case the facile stupidity in the thread is provided by.. You. Quite why you seem to lack the emotional intelligence to get your pea brain around the concept of suicide of a patriarchal figure as abandonment is alarming to be honest. Not surprising but alarming nonetheless. Clearly your break from the forum hasn't helped you overcome your need to rely on petty insults and pompous cliches to form an argument. Father would have done just as well, but parent would be more encompassing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTJohnboy Posted June 6, 2015 Share Posted June 6, 2015 As is normally the case the facile stupidity in the thread is provided by.. You. Quite why you seem to lack the emotional intelligence to get your pea brain around the concept of suicide of a patriarchal figure as abandonment is alarming to be honest. Not surprising but alarming nonetheless. ^^ Spent virtually all of his life in educational establishments of one kind or another and knows f**k all about anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_B Posted June 6, 2015 Share Posted June 6, 2015 ^^ Spent virtually all of his life in educational establishments of one kind or another and knows f**k all about anything. Lolwut. I haven't set foot in an 'educational establishment' of any kind since 1998. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_B Posted June 6, 2015 Share Posted June 6, 2015 Not the point I was making. Please refrain from the insults, it does you no credit. Mmm hmm. Perhaps you could outline the point you were intending to make then , given your absolutely disastrous performance so far on this thread has led to much head shaking and general pity for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sophia Posted June 6, 2015 Share Posted June 6, 2015 Mmm hmm. Perhaps you could outline the point you were intending to make then , given your absolutely disastrous performance so far on this thread has led to much head shaking and general pity for you. Charles Kennedy had a highland gentleness about him that was as attractive as it was charming. That charm and an anti-aggressiveness singled him out as a special person. In that respect his outlook is a lesson to us all. I do apologise to Ad Lib and others if my interjections on this thread have been ill formed and difficult to understand. Perhaps its not the place to shine a torch into a dark place. I'm now rather confused on my original point but I think it had something to do with Savage Henry's contention that Charlie was made of "sterner stuff". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted June 6, 2015 Share Posted June 6, 2015 Charles Kennedy seems to be that rare breed of politician who was widely respected. It's a pity that a thread to commemorate him on here has descended into petty bickering. Maybe it's time to give it a rest guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted June 6, 2015 Share Posted June 6, 2015 Lolwut. I haven't set foot in an 'educational establishment' of any kind since 1998. Still knows f**k all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete's Frontier Posted June 6, 2015 Share Posted June 6, 2015 A shame he was abused by the highland gnats at the end, a shameful party and their easily led sheep masses that don't have a clue who or what they voted for last month and are not likely to work it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 A shame he was abused by the highland gnats at the end, a shameful party and their easily led sheep masses that don't have a clue who or what they voted for last month and are not likely to work it out. Not surprised you believe the Daily Mail's disgraceful nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin_Nevis Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 A shame he was abused by the highland gnats at the end, a shameful party and their easily led sheep masses that don't have a clue who or what they voted for last month and are not likely to work it out. That's a pretty vile post, even for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUFC90 Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 A shame he was abused by the highland gnats at the end, a shameful party and their easily led sheep masses that don't have a clue who or what they voted for last month and are not likely to work it out. ^^^Scum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete's Frontier Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 So gnats and extreme lefties, Kennedy (a high profile highland unionist) did not receive abuse from national socialists? Not surprised you believe the Daily Mail's disgraceful nonsense. http://www.libdemvoice.org/daily-mail-on-how-charles-kennedy-was-hounded-by-the-snp-in-runup-to-the-election-46291.html The Lid Dems themselves say it happened as the DM reported. But never mind, eh. We all know the DM only prints lies and GNATS and other lefties shit smells of lavender, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 So gnats and extreme lefties, Kennedy (a high profile highland unionist) did not receive abuse from national socialists? http://www.libdemvoice.org/daily-mail-on-how-charles-kennedy-was-hounded-by-the-snp-in-runup-to-the-election-46291.html The Lid Dems themselves say it happened as the DM reported. But never mind, eh. We all know the DM only prints lies and GNATS and other lefties shit smells of lavender, The LibDems linked to the same Daily Mail article, dimwit. Just proves they're as big an arsehole as you are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionel wickson Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 Mmm hmm. Perhaps you could outline the point you were intending to make then , given your absolutely disastrous performance so far on this thread has led to much head shaking and general pity for you. That is a post worthy of... The Most Influential Poster in P&B History. Just let that sink in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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