Staggie_93 Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 How can Barry Hearn sell fishing (fishing!!!) to Sky for more than we can sell football? Surely to f**k, our viewing figures can't be worse than fishing?? Surely not? Cockwomble should be sacked for that alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7-2 Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 How can Barry Hearn sell fishing (fishing!!!) to Sky for more than we can sell football? Surely to f**k, our viewing figures can't be worse than fishing?? Fishing used to be the biggest participant sport in the UK. Might still be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PudgieTheSheep Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 Fishing used to be the biggest participant sport in the UK. Might still be. There's no doubting there's a market for it, but to watch it on TV? I know a lot of golfers (myself included) that wouldn't sit and watch all 4 rounds of a competition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7-2 Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 There's no doubting there's a market for it, but to watch it on TV? I know a lot of golfers (myself included) that wouldn't sit and watch all 4 rounds of a competition. I agree. It's certainly not for me but it must be for numerous others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Gaines Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 Why compare our deal to the ludicrous Sky deal for England? What a fucking pathetic comparison that is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieDee Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 There's hardly a huge excess of foreign players in the league right now. If anything, we could do with a few more at some clubs to help Scottish players add a little variety to their game.The scenario given would allow 3 players from abroad on the pitch at any time. The point is that this would be fine for everyone bar the OF, the clubs who regularly rely on a lot more foreign players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 That would be to the detriment of the Scottish game as a whole. Foreign players are often entertaining characters who add character and excitement to our game. Scottish players often learn a lot from them, and at a club like Celtic they can represent the additional level of quality which allows them to perform well in Europe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaggy Jenkins Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 Why compare our deal to the ludicrous Sky deal for England? What a fucking pathetic comparison that is. Or we could compare it to countries with similar attendance figures to ourselves Its a few years out of date but it still highlights how much we do our game down and Sky rips the piss https://saintinasia.wordpress.com/2012/07/06/the-sfaspl-tv-myth-how-we-compare-to-europe/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banana Posted June 5, 2015 Author Share Posted June 5, 2015 Or we could compare it to countries with similar attendance figures to ourselves Its a few years out of date but it still highlights how much we do our game down and Sky rips the piss https://saintinasia.wordpress.com/2012/07/06/the-sfaspl-tv-myth-how-we-compare-to-europe/ A cursory look at the selective stats suggests being in a separate national league setup in the same country as a national and worldwide draw like the EPL is at least partly to blame. More the EPL gravitating money in than Sky or whoever paying a relative pittance for Scottish football rights? They've only got so much money to use to bid for rights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nsr Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 Foreign players are often entertaining characters who add character and excitement to our game. Scottish players often learn a lot from them Bilel Mohsni, for example Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poet of the Macabre Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 Should have heard the hacks at the post-match cup final press conference. Keith Jackson & co absolutely raging that such a diddy team had won the Cup. "We've went from Brian Laudrup and Henrik Larsson to guys from Kidderminster scoring in the cup final" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScarf Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 To be fair, Keith Jackson is a fucking goon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7-2 Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 Should have heard the hacks at the post-match cup final press conference. Keith Jackson & co absolutely raging that such a diddy team had won the Cup. Excellent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banana Posted June 5, 2015 Author Share Posted June 5, 2015 Should have heard the hacks at the post-match cup final press conference. Keith Jackson & co absolutely raging that such a diddy team had won the Cup. "We've went from Brian Laudrup and Henrik Larsson to guys from Kidderminster scoring in the cup final" Glorious Source for this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 Should have heard the hacks at the post-match cup final press conference. Keith Jackson & co absolutely raging that such a diddy team had won the Cup. "We've went from Brian Laudrup and Henrik Larsson to guys from Kidderminster scoring in the cup final" Glorious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdTheDuck Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 Or we could compare it to countries with similar attendance figures to ourselves Its a few years out of date but it still highlights how much we do our game down and Sky rips the piss https://saintinasia.wordpress.com/2012/07/06/the-sfaspl-tv-myth-how-we-compare-to-europe/ Still not comparing like for like, in those countries virtually every game is live on TV, in Scotland it's about a quarter of games; on an individual game basis we get better money in comparison... Having said that, you could argue that what SKY/BT are essentially paying for is exOF games and that's why so few of the other games are broadcast on TV & I've no doubt viewing figures would be used as an excuse for not broadcasting, say, St Mirren-v-Kilmarnock; however although I don't have access to them I can't imagine there are huge audience numbers for Aalesund-v-Haugesund but Norwegian TV still broadcasts it. Even our national public service broadcaster barely allow more than a few minutes of highlights and almost no discussion of The Rest. Maybe we can convince the Scottish Government to do an Argentinian style Futbol Para Todos (football for everyone) channel on digital or satellite TV, it's the only feckin way we'll ever see fair coverage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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PudgieTheSheep Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 Still not comparing like for like, in those countries virtually every game is live on TV, in Scotland it's about a quarter of games; on an individual game basis we get better money in comparison... Having said that, you could argue that what SKY/BT are essentially paying for is exOF games and that's why so few of the other games are broadcast on TV & I've no doubt viewing figures would be used as an excuse for not broadcasting, say, St Mirren-v-Kilmarnock; however although I don't have access to them I can't imagine there are huge audience numbers for Aalesund-v-Haugesund but Norwegian TV still broadcasts it. Even our national public service broadcaster barely allow more than a few minutes of highlights and almost no discussion of The Rest. Maybe we can convince the Scottish Government to do an Argentinian style Futbol Para Todos (football for everyone) channel on digital or satellite TV, it's the only feckin way we'll ever see fair coverage I'd love to be able to watch more Scottish Football! Why we haven't pushed for the full Championship highlights to be on Sportscene I'll never know. Last year was the perfect time to do it but instead we got whatever games the "big three" were on TV for and a selected few others. I wouldn't mind seeing more of the lower leagues and the developmental league but can't make the DL games as they're at daft times of the day and I'm at Aberdeen games every week. What about an internet channel? Most people have Smart TV's or you can get an Amazon stick for £35! There's a far larger potential audience now than ever before and I think it's about time it was looked into. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swello Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 Still not comparing like for like, in those countries virtually every game is live on TV, in Scotland it's about a quarter of games; on an individual game basis we get better money in comparison... Having said that, you could argue that what SKY/BT are essentially paying for is exOF games and that's why so few of the other games are broadcast on TV & I've no doubt viewing figures would be used as an excuse for not broadcasting, say, St Mirren-v-Kilmarnock; however although I don't have access to them I can't imagine there are huge audience numbers for Aalesund-v-Haugesund but Norwegian TV still broadcasts it. Even our national public service broadcaster barely allow more than a few minutes of highlights and almost no discussion of The Rest. Maybe we can convince the Scottish Government to do an Argentinian style Futbol Para Todos (football for everyone) channel on digital or satellite TV, it's the only feckin way we'll ever see fair coverage Once rangers eventually get back into the top flight, the TV deal will instantly return to default - ie - Sky will show every Rangers and Celtic away game on alternate weeks with no thought to what game is actually interesting that week. When the OF was still a thing, I used to be genuinely baffled at the non-OF match choices (they seemed to be bizarrely taken with St Johnstone - Aberdeen for some reason) which seemed to be taken almost at random. It must have been the only TV deal that would ignore the actual biggest game in a weekend (Hearts or Aberdeen at Celtic Park for example) in order to show Rangers at Hamilton Accies or whatever. I'm sure there are sensible commercial reasons for the broadcasters to do what they've done in the past but it doesn't promote the game here - and must be fucking miserable for Rangers and Celtic fans that go to away games (and I'm not one to stick up for them very often) that need to be in Dingwall or Inverness for a midday kickoff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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