Trident "A disaster waiting to happen"

[John Lambies Doos]

Genius... and true.

[RabidAl]

There's little advantage in having them with current global dimplomacy, but things can change. I don't think they're really worth the cost, but there are some advantages in having them. I dont like where they're stored though. I'd be for getting rid, I don't think the UK is all that much of a world power and it would make very little difference if we didn't have them. There are bigger countries than us that get on fine without them,.

I thought the point of the UK having these weapons was to act as an independent nuclear deterrent, so that Russia couldn't consider using a nuclear first strike policy to annihilate the other main nuclear power, the US, because they know that the UK could launch a devastating counter-attack on them from some unspecified locations in the world's oceans. Hence the term 'mutual destruction, mutually assured', an overarching global stalemate, and a foreign policy backdrop that ensures our comfortable little lives carry on as normal.

[Mr Bairn]

The Tories will renew it

[bowmore]

Policy

UK nuclear deterrent...

...deterrent ...deterrent

https://www.gov.uk/government/policies/uk-nuclear-deterrent

[sons superhero]

Deterrent from who?

[bowmore]

The SNP

[I'm Brian]

The SNP

Not much of a deterrent then.

[Pete's Frontier]

It's going to be renewed so it's pointless debating it. Nippy no doubt still wants Faslane shut down, but it's not in her remit to do that. 55% said no, ken.

[sons superhero]

No she doesn't want it shut down. But don't let fact get in the way of talking pish.

[Crùbag]

Take the nukes out of Faslane and use the base for something more productive.

If we're gonna throw £s at a 'job-retention' scheme - Jackie Baillie's usual defence - then get the guys making Edinburgh's trams or more wind turbines. Funny how Socialist logic is fine when it's bombs you're making/ keeping?

[Crùbag]

It's going to be renewed so it's pointless debating it. Nippy no doubt still wants Faslane shut down, but it's not in her remit to do that. 55% said no, ken.

Says Ukipper central. Immigrants gonna come here, emigrants gonna leave. No point debating it.

[BradHorse]

I don't really think the argument of where they are located should come into it too much. I mean, I grew up in Dumbarton so the base is only a few miles from me and of course I'd love them to be as far away as possible but like someone earlier in the thread said - faslane appears on the surface to be the best place in the UK to keep them. As it happens, we are sadly (and democratically) still part of the UK so why should London have to have them, or Wales ot wherever else you can think of? I really don't think it's a case of the government just thinking 'f**k the Scots, they can hold onto them for us'.

[Carl Cort's Hamstring]

I don't really think the argument of where they are located should come into it too much. I mean, I grew up in Dumbarton so the base is only a few miles from me and of course I'd love them to be as far away as possible but like someone earlier in the thread said - faslane appears on the surface to be the best place in the UK to keep them. As it happens, we are sadly (and democratically) still part of the UK so why should London have to have them, or Wales ot wherever else you can think of? I really don't think it's a case of the government just thinking 'f**k the Scots, they can hold onto them for us'.

The rights and wrongs of Trident aside (personally I'm against renewing), when people are arguing about the location why does everyone forget that the bombs are assembled 40 miles from the centre of London?

[sons superhero]

The rights and wrongs of Trident aside (personally I'm against renewing), when people are arguing about the location why does everyone forget that the bombs are assembled 40 miles from the centre of London?

No bother then keeping the subs on the thames then.

[Carl Cort's Hamstring]

No bother then keeping the subs on the thames then.

Wouldn't bother me. I think someone has already outlined why strategically that doesn't make sense though.

[Wee Willie]

Wouldn't bother me. I think someone has already outlined why strategically that doesn't make sense though.

Of course, it's too near Mrs Windsor.

[Carl Cort's Hamstring]

Of course, it's too near Mrs Windsor.

She could hop in a car at Windsor castle and be at a nuclear weapon storage facility in 20 minutes.

[Pete's Frontier]

Says Ukipper central. Immigrants gonna come here, emigrants gonna leave. No point debating it.

The emigrants (who are outnumbered 2 to 1) are mostly British people with skills, hence the UK tax take has dropped despite record employment and the in work benefits bill has sky rocketed. That won't concern you though. Being an accountant, however, I take note of these things, and when I lose clients to overseas, good clients who were paying a lot of UK taxes. it informs my opinion. But continue with your uninformed ignorance by all means. If you feel enriched in Gorgie these days that is great for you.

[sons superhero]

She could hop in a car at Windsor castle and be at a nuclear weapon storage facility in 20 minutes.

No weapons stored near Windsor, but nice try.

[BradHorse]

The rights and wrongs of Trident aside (personally I'm against renewing), when people are arguing about the location why does everyone forget that the bombs are assembled 40 miles from the centre of London?

I didn't know that. I don't know too much in regards to the making or assembling of the horrible nuclear weapons Britain still has in its arsenal. Just, like I said, I don't think location from a point of 'why should WE have them?' is a reasonable stand point to come from.