MarkoRaj Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 Can't get much better publicity than that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_B Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 It's delicious to see the SNP fanboys scrambling desperately when Sturgeon is outed as a barefaced liar. Tremendous stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antiochas III Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 It's delicious to see the SNP fanboys scrambling desperately when Sturgeon is outed as a barefaced liar. Tremendous stuff. Go on then what did she lie about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_B Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 Go on then what did she lie about? Sturgeon (Feb 2015) :- "The SNP have a longstanding position of not voting on matters that purely affect England - such as foxhunting south of the border for example - and we stand by that" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjw Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 So they didn't actually vote, they just threatened to vote? You'd think a majority government would have this covered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_B Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 So they didn't actually vote, they just threatened to vote? You'd think a majority government would have this covered. I know the concept of MPs actually voting the way they want and not what they are told by the party is a really startling one for SNP fanboys to grasp, but it happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 So they didn't actually vote, they just threatened to vote? You'd think a majority government would have this covered. Indeed. Which is why I think Cameron's laughing into his coco pops this morning. But as someone who believes in the values of the SNP over the side issue of independence, I still think it was the ethical thing to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antiochas III Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 Sturgeon (Feb 2015) :- "The SNP have a longstanding position of not voting on matters that purely affect England - such as foxhunting south of the border for example - and we stand by that"So she hasn't lied. Nowhere does she say that the SNP will not say they will vote against the Fox ban being lifted.For someone who likes to make sure others are specifically correct in their statement you don't half fail to be so yourself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 All politicians change their views on issues - it happens. What's amusing to me is the clapping seals (just check the first page of this thread) who have somersaulted as well over this issue. They talk about monkeys with red rosettes - we seem to have monkeys with red and yellow rosettes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 Indeed. Which is why I think Cameron's laughing into his coco pops this morning. But as someone who believes in the values of the SNP over the side issue of independence, I still think it was the ethical thing to do. Those ethical values have left the hunting laws in Scotland slacker than they are in England and Wales. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_B Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 So she hasn't lied. Nowhere does she say that the SNP will not say they will vote against the Fox ban being lifted. So when she said they stand by that longstanding position, what she actually meant was that they didn't stand by that longstanding position? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_B Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 All politicians change their views on issues - it happens. Indeed. It would be stupid not to. All politicians engage in embarrassing U Turns, when expediency demands. You can't trust anything a politician says. They are inveterate liars and opportunists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_B Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 Those ethical values have left the hunting laws in Scotland slacker than they are in England and Wales. Sturgeon disagrees with the Scottish law. If only she'd been in a position to do anything about it. It's a damn shame she wasn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUFC90 Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 The unionists are trying way too hard with their "they're just like everyone else " line. Looking forward to another crushing majority by the only show in town in 2016. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkoRaj Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 All politicians change their views on issues - it happens. What's amusing to me is the clapping seals (just check the first page of this thread) who have somersaulted as well over this issue. They talk about monkeys with red rosettes - we seem to have monkeys with red and yellow rosettes. I haven't seen any examples of the above. Most are split over the issue even the resident roasters: Would like to see them vote against it but they did say they would not vote on matters that don't affect Scotland. This doesn't. Seems rather reasonable, nothing like a clapping seal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shagz White Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 This worked out in favour for both the Tories and the SNP. The SNP get to show people that they will fight against the Tories and are essentially the main opposition. Whilst the Tories get further ammunition for EVEL. All the Tories say is look at the SNP, not only are they voting on a law which has absolutely no effect on Scotland, but what the Tories proposed was actually to make it more like the Scottish law. So in Scotland the SNP say use as many dogs has you want, but in England you can't. Both sides will be happy here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkoRaj Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 Sturgeon disagrees with the Scottish law. If only she'd been in a position to do anything about it. It's a damn shame she wasn't. Yes because there has been such a public outcry to change the fox hunting law in Scotland since the SNP came into power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 What's amusing to me is the clapping seals (just check the first page of this thread) who have somersaulted as well over this issue. Think most people grasp that the SNP are guided by the wider EVEL debate on this, which has also been delayed to a later date due to the risk of defeat for the government. So they didn't actually vote, they just threatened to vote? You'd think a majority government would have this covered. 12 is not a comfortable majority when you have lots of eccentric backbenchers on board that can potentially threaten to defect to UKIP, if they don't get their way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mizfit Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 Maybe if labour done their proper job then the SNP wouldn't need to stand up and act like the main opposition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CALDERON Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 Those ethical values have left the hunting laws in Scotland slacker than they are in England and Wales. This is the bit I dont quite get to be honest. Surely we should have our own house in order first? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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