John Lambies Doos Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 Talking dirty again. Whatever floats your boat Kev. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyerTon Posted September 14, 2015 Author Share Posted September 14, 2015 Free Pashmina scarf? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fotbawmad Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 When I was having breakfast earlier this morning I remember catching that headline from The Sun about Corbyn, but a quick turn to pages 4-5 revealed he only wanted to reduce spending on it, which unless you have imperialistic attitudes or links to military contractors. It would seem like a perfectly reasonable policy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boabinoban Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 Fair enough. Let's get this back on topic. ImageUploadedByPie & Bovril1442176605.669303.jpg At least you've got a sense oh humour ???? Anyway I see the press have started as they no doubt mean to go on. The UK press are an out and out fucking disgrace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MEADOWXI Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 Listening to Radio Scotland this morning driving to work and that prize walloper Tom Harris was on. Doing a bigger hatchet job on the leader of his party than anyone outside their party good, but getting rings sun round him by some old labour wifie that kept picking up on his history re-writing exerecise. New Labour good - All else bad, Only thing missing from the interview was him asking the radio interviewer for a request for 'Things Can Only Get Better' with the message, 'miss you Tony please come back'. Total bellend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~ Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 I've got zero sympathy for Labour when it comes to the right wing media attacks, especially after the Indy ref. reap what you sow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 Free Pashmina scarf? Leave her in jail - sounds like a muslimy terrorist type name to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyerTon Posted September 14, 2015 Author Share Posted September 14, 2015 Another Jeremy with a debate about Corbyn just now: http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/player/bbc_radio_two Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 Has 1 eyed broon or warman Blair commented yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boabinoban Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 I've got zero sympathy for Labour when it comes to the right wing media attacks, especially after the Indy ref. reap what you sow I've kinda got a wee bit of sympathy for the UK's thick people who read that shit and lap it up because they don't know any better. The press are in part to blame for the neo liberalist mess the UK finds itself in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 I've kinda got a wee bit of sympathy for the UK's thick people who read that shit and lap it up because they don't know any better. The press are in part to blame for the neo liberalist mess the UK finds itself in. No sympathy from me. The British public and Britnats from North of border are morons for believing most of this sh1te Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fide Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 Oh, Kezia Kezia Dugdale @kdugdalemsp Tories mounting the most significant attack on working people's rights in my lifetime, we must unite against it. twitter.com/scottishlabour… Michael Gray @GrayInGlasgow Sep 13 .@kdugdalemsp Labour argued to keep workers' rights with the Tories during the Smith Commission negotiations. pic.twitter.com/dV6ayYrLQT Kezia Dugdale @kdugdalemsp Sep 13 @GrayInGlasgow a position held by many trade unionists Michael Gray @GrayInGlasgow Sep 13 @kdugdalemsp Leaving Scotland open to "the most significant attack on working people's rights" in your lifetime. Why not back @ScottishTUC? Kezia Dugdale @kdugdalemsp Sep 13 @GrayInGlasgow @ScottishTUC Unions position on this far from unanimous · Steve @3pSteve Sep 13 @kdugdalemsp @GrayInGlasgow @ScottishTUC that's a disappointing response. The stuc response to Smith was very good. Michael Gray @GrayInGlasgow Sep 13 @kdugdalemsp It's a perfect example of where federalism means ScotLabour can lead & outflank SNP, but unionism leaves you on the sidelines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fide Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 Remember when you could rely on broadsheet newspapers to not sink to name calling? Telegraph News @TelegraphNews Corbyn has just appointed a nutjob as shadow Chancellor tgr.ph/1iawQeE pic.twitter.com/9OugeUmMCl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 Oh, Kezia Kezia Dugdale @kdugdalemsp Tories mounting the most significant attack on working people's rights in my lifetime, we must unite against it. twitter.com/scottishlabour… Michael Gray @GrayInGlasgow Sep 13 .@kdugdalemsp Labour argued to keep workers' rights with the Tories during the Smith Commission negotiations. pic.twitter.com/dV6ayYrLQT Kezia Dugdale @kdugdalemsp Sep 13 @GrayInGlasgow a position held by many trade unionists Michael Gray @GrayInGlasgow Sep 13 @kdugdalemsp Leaving Scotland open to "the most significant attack on working people's rights" in your lifetime. Why not back @ScottishTUC? Kezia Dugdale @kdugdalemsp Sep 13 @GrayInGlasgow @ScottishTUC Unions position on this far from unanimous · Steve @3pSteve Sep 13 @kdugdalemsp @GrayInGlasgow @ScottishTUC that's a disappointing response. The stuc response to Smith was very good. Michael Gray @GrayInGlasgow Sep 13 @kdugdalemsp It's a perfect example of where federalism means ScotLabour can lead & outflank SNP, but unionism leaves you on the sidelines. Christ. Absolutely belted by her own there. Labour are going to become the devo-max party shortly - the need for that seems to be dawning on even the most hardened supporter I think. If that was to happen, that would further diminish the liberal democrats already miniscule relevance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renton Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 Saw an interesting point on twitter last night, regarding butterfly effects and the unlikely debt that Corbyn owes Eric Joyce. If Joyce doesn't hit that guy in the commons bar, then he doesn't get de-selected. if he doesn't get de-selected then Unite don't create a massive stooshie in Falkirk by attempting to skew the selection process up there. If there is no Falkirk issue, then Milliband doesn't institute the Collins review which transformed the various voting rights of different parts of the party that allowed Corbyn to win. So, if Eric Joyce doesn't lose his temper, Andy Burnham would now likely be the Labour leader..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bishop Briggs Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 Saw an interesting point on twitter last night, regarding butterfly effects and the unlikely debt that Corbyn owes Eric Joyce. If Joyce doesn't hit that guy in the commons bar, then he doesn't get de-selected. if he doesn't get de-selected then Unite don't create a massive stooshie in Falkirk by attempting to skew the selection process up there. If there is no Falkirk issue, then Milliband doesn't institute the Collins review which transformed the various voting rights of different parts of the party that allowed Corbyn to win. So, if Eric Joyce doesn't lose his temper, Andy Burnham would now likely be the Labour leader..... Lots of what ifs there. There are two holes in your argument. The first hole is that Corbyn would not have even been on the ballot if his opponents (Field, Beckett etc) had refused to nominate him. He only got the required nominations with minutes to spare. The second is that the Collins Review had no impact on the final result. Corbyn got over 50% in all sections of the party. He did not need the votes of the £3 supporters. Corbyn would have had the union block vote too. So where would Burnham have got the necessary 20% swing to beat Corbyn and become Leader. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renton Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 Lots of what ifs there. There are two holes in your argument. The first hole is that Corbyn would not have even been on the ballot if his opponents (Field, Beckett etc) had refused to nominate him. He only got the required nominations with minutes to spare. The second is that the Collins Review had no impact on the final result. Corbyn got over 50% in all sections of the party. He did not need the votes of the £3 supporters. Corbyn would have had the union block vote too. So where would Burnham have got the necessary 20% swing to beat Corbyn and become Leader. It's very much tongue in cheek, but I wonder if in a different voting structure he'd have managed to get that momentum going. Then again, arguably, the other three's decision to abstain on the welfare bill is what killed them. If Cooper or Burnham vote against that, they cause any amount of division in the party, but probably come out ahead in the leadership contest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bishop Briggs Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 It's very much tongue in cheek, but I wonder if in a different voting structure he'd have managed to get that momentum going. Then again, arguably, the other three's decision to abstain on the welfare bill is what killed them. If Cooper or Burnham vote against that, they cause any amount of division in the party, but probably come out ahead in the leadership contest. The answer is Yes because the members and big unions would have backed him anyway. Corbyn had massive grassroots support that his team mobilised superbly. It's unlikely that the abstentions had any real effect. The other three ran lacklustre campaigns that offered no alternative vision. Kendall has no chance from the start anyway. The opposition to Corbyn was too split. Burnham and Cooper should have done a deal (like Blair and Brown) and run on a joint ticket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 The opposition to Corbyn was too split. Burnham and Cooper should have done a deal (like Blair and Brown) and run on a joint ticket. Wouldnt have worked. Corbyn spied a massive gap in market and has exploited it. All downhill for Corbyn now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capybara Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 Well I have waited a while to see Scottish Labour use the S word Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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