Mr Bairn Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 That Liz Kendall burd aint bad for her age Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YassinMoutaouakil Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 Pretty sure it'll be Kendall, the Right wing press won't be able to go after a woman like they did with Miliband. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wirez Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 What an utterly uninspiring list of potential leaders If thats the cream of the party then Labour are fucked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 What an utterly uninspiring list of potential leaders If thats the cream of the party then Labour are fucked They are the cream - thick and full of clots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjw Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 Maybe LiamDFC could photoshop that image. You going off like the one o'clock gun, while Yvette dons here sussies and shows her badge, possibly with Ed Balls sitting on a chair in the corner of the room, wanking. Utter debauchery. Balls can go w**k somewhere else but ive no problem with the rest of that set up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete's Frontier Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 I can see Labour's collapse moving into England and their traditional voters there moving towards UKIP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bairn Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 I can see Labour's collapse moving into England and their traditional voters there moving towards UKIP. It already moved into England, and UKIP are finished. Swing and a miss, champ. The only reason their "traditional" voters would abandon them would be a second wave of New Labourism to recapture the middle ground, and in that case traditional Labour votes would go to the Greens or even a revitalised Lib Dems Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fotbawmad Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 I thought the potential replacements for Cameron were bad, but Labour ones are even worse. Personally, I'd like to see some North of England MP. Rather than someone from the usual public schoolboy in the South of England. Who went to Oxbridge and then via connections went straight into politics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bairn Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 I thought the potential replacements for Cameron were bad, but Labour ones are even worse. Personally, I'd like to see some North of England MP. Rather than someone from the usual public schoolboy in the South of England. Who went to Oxbridge and then via connections went straight into politics. The Right Honourable Member for Doncaster North hardly covered himself in glory... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete's Frontier Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 It already moved into England, and UKIP are finished. Swing and a miss, champ. The only reason their "traditional" voters would abandon them would be a second wave of New Labourism to recapture the middle ground, and in that case traditional Labour votes would go to the Greens or even a revitalised Lib Dems Not for me pal. Nige laid it out pretty clearly last night that they (eu) won't give Cameron anything meaningful in the way of renegotiation, so if we're not out of the Brussels political straight jacket by 2020 our vote will double, Populist, straight talking politics are here to stay anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bairn Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 Not for me pal. Nige laid it out pretty clearly last night that they (eu) won't give Cameron anything meaningful in the way of renegotiation, so if we're not out of the Brussels political straight jacket by 2020 our vote will double, Populist, straight talking politics are here to stay anyway. The SNP managed to go from strength to strength after losing a referendum, surely UKIP wont do the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandarilla Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 The SNP managed to go from strength to strength after losing a referendum, surely UKIP wont do the same. It depends what kind of loss it is. If they comprehensively lose the argument then they won't recover. That's the difference in relation to Scotland. Yes won the argument but lost the vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete's Frontier Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 The SNP managed to go from strength to strength after losing a referendum, surely UKIP wont do the same. We're here to stay, deal with it. It depends what kind of loss it is. If they comprehensively lose the argument then they won't recover. That's the difference in relation to Scotland. Yes won the argument but lost the vote. Yes won the argument? That's the kind of arrogance that made it a no. And even the SNP don't want FFA now, just hilarious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRob72 Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 Not a Labour voter, but I'd go with Andy Burnham, heard him speak at a couple of events, and seems like an honest lad, passionate but realistic about the strains on the NHS, and talks like a normal person! Tristram Hunt, really !!? Only if the Labour Party and its members want to get properly shafted in England too! Shame Alan Johnson doesn't want the gig, but few could blame him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bairn Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 Not a Labour voter, but I'd go with Andy Burnham, heard him speak at a couple of events, and seems like an honest lad, passionate but realistic about the strains on the NHS, and talks like a normal person! Tristram Hunt, really !!? Only if the Labour Party and its members want to get properly shafted in England too! Shame Alan Johnson doesn't want the gig, but few could blame him. I like Alan Johnson and he supports AV+. Some boi. As for UKIP, one thing's for sure they won't be getting the same proportion of the vote next time. Assuming they lose the vote one of two things will happen, either the "45" rally behind them and they go from strength to strength like the SNP, or they completely implode due to infighting like the BNP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SodjesSixteenIncher Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 Burnham's a fascinating insight into our class system. Someone on TV the other night saying Umunna might be a bit too Oxbridge for the Labour leadership. It was pointed out that Burnham went to Cambridge, which was basically answered with "well aye, he's a Scouser though". I'm with RedRob though, reckon he's their best bet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YassinMoutaouakil Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 "Andy Burnham's face could withstand first degree battery and potentially be improved." Say what you like about Katie Hopkins but she has a knack for character assassination Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuzzyAffro Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 "Andy Burnham's face could withstand first degree battery and potentially be improved." Say what you like about Katie Hopkins but she has a knack for character assassination Tbf so could hers, I couldn't believe it when I read she was only 39, she looks about 65. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bairn Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 Burnham's a fascinating insight into our class system. Someone on TV the other night saying Umunna might be a bit too Oxbridge for the Labour leadership. It was pointed out that Burnham went to Cambridge, which was basically answered with "well aye, he's a Scouser though". I'm with RedRob though, reckon he's their best bet. "Oxbridge" is a misnomer when it comes to PMs because we haven't had a Cambridge prime minister since Stanley Baldwin who was PM for three stints between 1923 and 1937 Interestingly, we've had four prime ministers that never went to uni at all since the last prime minister that went to Cambridge 9 of the last 12 prime ministers are Oxford graduates with only Gordon Brown (Edinburgh), John Major and James Callaghan (Neither went to uni) bucking the trend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invergowrie arab Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 Burnham has done very well out of proclaiming himself a socialist the last time there was a leadership race. Simply by saying it in a time after Blair and brown when no one would have said it it seems to have stuck. Of course in reality he is balls deep in the new labour project and has voted very strongly on trident renewal for example. Voted strongly for Iraq war, strongly against Iraq war investigation. Stronger for a stricter asylum system, strongly for ID cards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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