I'm Brian Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 ImageUploadedByPie & Bovril1435430961.428162.jpg Haters gonna hate. I thought that fruitloop would have disappeared after her election fail. A seriously deranged individual with a liking for the Nazis. Mates with Reynard as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~ Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 ImageUploadedByPie & Bovril1435430961.428162.jpg I truly believe she has mental health issues Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mizfit Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 I truly believe she has mental health issues I just find it utterly amazing she is a professor at Edinburgh university. The sad thing is she's pretty influential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1320Lichtie Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 ImageUploadedByPie & Bovril1435430961.428162.jpg I'm sure I seen this woman's twitter in the Dundee courier after she tweeted about the aeroplane drunk from Dundee saying what can you expect from somebody from a city that voted yes. They're clearly stupid, or something along those lines What a fucking boot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~ Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 I just find it utterly amazing she is a professor at Edinburgh university. The sad thing is she's pretty influential. She must be retired surely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon EF Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 Unionist seethe is good for my soul. Let's me know these c***s are truly terrified. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wirez Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 But call a labour member a traitor and you are a 'cybernat'? Labour Ms Short was accused of being a "traitor" by Labour peer Lord Foulkes. - http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/6069710.stm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gullane No 4 Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 Good to see a person with a rounded life experience in the mother of parliaments. I would imagine that she has a much better grip on life than some of the Eton mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fide Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 Jill Stephenson is an Emeritus Professor. Edinburgh Uni have distanced themselves from her on several occasions. Whilst Blair McDougall et al call for a crackdown on cybernats whilst not recognising the far worse abuse that comes from the Unionist side they cannot and will not be taken seriously. It's all to do with silencing SNP supporters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashman Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 I would imagine that she has a much better grip on life than some of the Eton mess.[/quot Yawn ; Eton !!! Bullingdon !!! Any more cliches ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fide Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 I would imagine that she has a much better grip on life than some of the Eton mess.[/quot Yawn ; Eton !!! Bullingdon !!! Any more cliches ?? Do you deny that a large contingent of the Conservative front bench are privately educated spivs with little or no experience of what the vast majority of people have to go through? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashman Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 They went to public schools as I understand ( why are they called that ????) but they seek a mandate and get same . Not my cup of tea to be honest but my point is that a young student has no life experience as yet albeit likeable and irreverent. The irish and British states are paying for the largesse of populist governments from the turn of the millennium and not the action of Tory toffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fide Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 They went to public schools as I understand ( why are they called that ????) but they seek a mandate and get same . Not my cup of tea to be honest but my point is that a young student has no life experience as yet albeit likeable and irreverent. The irish and British states are paying for the largesse of populist governments from the turn of the millennium and not the action of Tory toffs. This is quite clearly bollocks. And who mentioned the Irish? The British (Tory) Government have an ideological austerity driven agenda as an excuse to squash the welfare state and ensure the lower classes remain a political punchbag. I repeat - the elitist toffs in the Tory cabinet know f**k all about "life". Do you think Oliver Letwin, Ian Duncan Smith, Jeremy Hunt, Anna Soubry or Boris Johnson have EVER wanted for anything, much less ever faced any real struggles in life? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashman Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 Books have to be balanced . Governments in the period from 2000 to 2008 worked on the assumption that borrowed money could be used for current expenditure . The welfare state is under pressure because the assumptions on which it was based are becoming more and more obsolete . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fide Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 Books have to be balanced . Governments in the period from 2000 to 2008 worked on the assumption that borrowed money could be used for current expenditure . The welfare state is under pressure because the assumptions on which it was based are becoming more and more obsolete . Books have to be balanced eh? That explains why the national debt under Gideon's expert stewardship has DOUBLED to £1.5 trillion since they came to power in 2010? In what way is the welfare state becoming more obsolete? One of the basic tenets of any welfare system is public responsibility for those unable to avail themselves of the minimal provisions for a basic standard of life. How do you think disabled people with no prospect of an improvement in their quality of life feel to hear the Tories bang on about aspirations and hard working families? Don't you think they have aspirations too? Or are they just not as important as those who "contribute"? I genuinely hope you are trolling. If not... Jesus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashman Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 You are not really understanding my point but I suspect you don't really want to given your polemic rants . The assumptions on which affordabillity of welfare states were based are changing , ie higher life expectancy , erosion of traditional manufacturing industries , globalisation etc ..... . What grinds my goat is politicians making promises in old money so to speak . Most countries have ran deficits since 2008 due to the aftershock . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fide Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 You are not really understanding my point but I suspect you don't really want to given your polemic rants . The assumptions on which affordabillity of welfare states were based are changing , ie higher life expectancy , erosion of traditional manufacturing industries , globalisation etc ..... . What grinds my goat is politicians making promises in old money so to speak . Most countries have ran deficits since 2008 due to the aftershock . None of which alters the fact that a welfare state should be society's safety net for it's weakest and most vulnerable. Which politicians have made promises in old money? I accept that most countries run a deficit. Two questions though: 1) Did poor and disabled people cause the financial crash? 2) Is attacking and slashing welfare the most cost effective and best way of attacking the deficit and saving money? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsimButtHitsASix Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 1) No 2) No How much did the slashing of the top rate of tax by 5% make the country? All in this together remember? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashman Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 None of which alters the fact that a welfare state should be society's safety net for it's weakest and most vulnerable. Which politicians have made promises in old money? I accept that most countries run a deficit. Two questions though: 1) Did poor and disabled people cause the financial crash? 2) Is attacking and slashing welfare the most cost effective and best way of attacking the deficit and saving money? 1) no and 2) yes and no . Agree with you on weakest and most vulnerable 100 % but it aint that simple . Every politician is in denial on costs of welfare and health and even worse how to pay for it . They are in the business of winning elections . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fide Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 1) no and 2) yes and no . Agree with you on weakest and most vulnerable 100 % but it aint that simple . It really is. A 5 year old could tell you of better ways to run a country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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