Pete's Frontier Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/584478/Britain-migrants-borders-politics-immigration-Calais If you want a stark example of why the EU is a farce and bad for Britain, just look at the situation in Calais. UKIP's Steven Woofle visits the 4000 strong Afro male ghettto in Calais that the French encourage. They all want benefits and free health and know they can get it here. Tens of thousand more are on their way to the same spot, and a good percentage will end up in the usual dumping grounds in Glasgow and elsewhere all at our expense. Just a nightmare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fotbawmad Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/584478/Britain-migrants-borders-politics-immigration-Calais If you want a stark example of why the EU is a farce and bad for Britain, just look at the situation in Calais. UKIP's Steven Woofle visits the 4000 strong Afro male ghettto in Calais that the French encourage. They all want benefits and free health and know they can get it here. Tens of thousand more are on their way to the same spot, and a good percentage will end up in the usual dumping grounds in Glasgow and elsewhere all at our expense. Just a nightmare. This situation won't neccerliy change in the event of a No vote. Not if we're in the EEA. In terms of wanting to leave, "foreigners" should be way down on the list. The question you should be asking yourself is why are these people coming here in the first place? I'll give you a clue, it's not for the reasons you've just stated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strichener Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 This situation won't neccerliy change in the event of a No vote. Not if we're in the EEA. In terms of wanting to leave, "foreigners" should be way down on the list. The question you should be asking yourself is why are these people coming here in the first place? I'll give you a clue, it's not for the reasons you've just stated. I always find the irony of this to be somewhat comical. UKIP claim that all these people are coming here for benefits and an easy life which totally ignores some of the risks and terrible conditions and situations that these people endure to try to improve their lives. Not exactly the type of people that you expect would get to the UK and then think "Jobs done, lets sit about drinking beer and claiming benefits". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete's Frontier Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 This situation won't neccerliy change in the event of a No vote. Not if we're in the EEA. In terms of wanting to leave, "foreigners" should be way down on the list. The question you should be asking yourself is why are these people coming here in the first place? I'll give you a clue, it's not for the reasons you've just stated. Well read the article, Josif from Sudan went through seven safe countries but wants in here for the benefits. We need a complete reform of benefits access, ECHR and a border force fit for purpose as well as out of the EU because at root lack of border control is enabling these criminals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strichener Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 Well read the article, Josif from Sudan went through seven safe countries but wants in here for the benefits. We need a complete reform of benefits access, ECHR and a border force fit for purpose as well as out of the EU because at root lack of border control is enabling these criminals. Can you quote from the article where it states that Josif wants in here for the benefits? It would appear that the only mention of benefits in the article is a direct quote from UKIP. Which will surprise absolutely no-one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete's Frontier Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 Can you quote from the article where it states that Josif wants in here for the benefits? It would appear that the only mention of benefits in the article is a direct quote from UKIP. Which will surprise absolutely no-one. Come on, be serious. They want fed, housed, protected and medicated for life and they'll get it here to our considerable expense, you know it and so do they hence why there are so many attacking us from every terminal and port in Europe. Over £100bn non EEA migration has cost since the Blair years, a large chunk of national debt can be ascribed to it and its going to rocket. We need to reform ECHR very badly, create a new fit for purpose border force and protect our public services from abuse. These people have to be discouraged somehow. And that includes leaving the EU. Our so called eu partners are pointing and sending them directly here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~ Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 A life on benefits is no life at all for the majority of people. I lost count the amount of times if had to see people decided between food or electricity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strichener Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 Come on, be serious. They want fed, housed, protected and medicated for life and they'll get it here to our considerable expense, you know it and so do they hence why there are so many attacking us from every terminal and port in Europe. Over £100bn non EEA migration has cost since the Blair years, a large chunk of national debt can be ascribed to it and its going to rocket. We need to reform ECHR very badly, create a new fit for purpose border force and protect our public services from abuse. These people have to be discouraged somehow. And that includes leaving the EU. Our so called eu partners are pointing and sending them directly here. I was being serious. Well read the article, Josif from Sudan went through seven safe countries but wants in here for the benefits.. Is the article stating for a fact that Josif is coming here for benefits or is this your own opinion presented as fact? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete's Frontier Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 A life on benefits is no life at all for the majority of people. I lost count the amount of times if had to see people decided between food or electricity Benefits should never be an easy existence, but the fact is it is for many hence why they are on it for life. They still get their drink and fags, as we know, maybe that's why the fire is not on. I grew up in a single parent home in the 70's, no money, my mother did not even claim housing benefit but we got by. These socialists just prey on these people's BS for votes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strichener Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 Benefits should never be an easy existence, but the fact is it is for many hence why they are on it for life. They still get their drink and fags, as we know, maybe that's why the fire is not on. I grew up in a single parent home in the 70's, no money, my mother did not even claim housing benefit but we got by. These socialists just prey on these people's BS for votes. Don't forget their flat screen TVs, four annual foreign holidays etc. etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fide Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 Are there any unionists on here, or even off of here, who don't come across as frothing, servile, swivel-eyed, angry sociopaths? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anonapersona Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 Benefits should never be an easy existence, but the fact is it is for many hence why they are on it for life. They still get their drink and fags, as we know, maybe that's why the fire is not on. I grew up in a single parent home in the 70's, no money, my mother did not even claim housing benefit but we got by. These socialists just prey on these people's BS for votes. Seriously? That sounds really irresponsible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Gaines Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 Are there any unionists on here, or even off of here, who don't come across as frothing, servile, swivel-eyed, angry sociopaths? Pete doesn't count, being a blatant troll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fotbawmad Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 Benefits should never be an easy existence, but the fact is it is for many hence why they are on it for life. They still get their drink and fags, as we know, maybe that's why the fire is not on. I grew up in a single parent home in the 70's, no money, my mother did not even claim housing benefit but we got by. These socialists just prey on these people's BS for votes. What about all that corporate welfare? Or are you just bashing the unemployed, because it's easier to relate to? After all, the unemployed only account for 1% of all government handouts. Blaming people for being unemployed is a cop out. By drawing attention away from lack of jobs, and that largely comes down to bad government policy. By making it risky to employ people (especially the young) and making it expensive to comply with government regulations. Well read the article, Josif from Sudan went through seven safe countries but wants in here for the benefits. We need a complete reform of benefits access, ECHR and a border force fit for purpose as well as out of the EU because at root lack of border control is enabling these criminals. Relying on a conformation bias by focusing on singular cases does not prove your point. Yes, the benefits system needs heavy reform. Not by toughening it up, but by simplifying it. That alone would save billions a year. Toughening up border checks isn't going to fix anything either. It will just enrich the best people smugglers even more. If someone is determined to come here. They'll do it by hook or by crook. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madwullie Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 Don't forget their flat screen TVs, four annual foreign holidays etc. etc. Plus PS4s in prison. Makes my BLOOD BOIL EDIT: not to mention Romanians cruising around stealing dogs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 Plus PS4s in prison. Makes my BLOOD BOIL EDIT: not to mention Romanians cruising around stealing dogs. And there 28 bedroom mansions whilst our poor brave soldiers cant get a house Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strichener Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 And there 28 bedroom mansions whilst our poor brave soldiers cant get a houseGood to see Tory policies working. It used to be that they could stay in 240 room mansions.Oops just checked and it appears that if you are German and named Windsor then this is still the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 Labour vote with the Tories to deny eu nationals the chance to vote in the ref Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AberdeenBud Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 Labour vote with the Tories to deny eu nationals the chance to vote in the ref Scum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~ Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 Confirmed. No EU nationals are allowed to vote and for some strange reason 16 & 17 year olds are being denied the vote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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