~~~ Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 They're wide open for the absolutely correct criticism coming their way. Especially after taking a stance before. I don't think I'd be that bothered if they never did that. They get attacked so often now from the other parties. I'm not so sure it will make a difference Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_B Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 Why? Sturgeon (Feb 2015) :- "The SNP have a longstanding position of not voting on matters that purely affect England - such as foxhunting south of the border for example - and we stand by that" Obviously by "stand by that" she really meant "will go back on this position as and when we want to" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Gaines Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 They get attacked so often now from the other parties. I'm not so sure it will make a difference Has there been good reason before though? Some of the backlash has been worth it though. Genuinely hilarious stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 The whole unionist population? What is that in Scotland? There's no fucking way it's 55 percent of folk. I can think of a handful of people that voted no I know that would claim to be unionists. You've been worse than me for commenting all over these threads lately. The time of year must have brought it out of you As opposed to yourself, who is just like this all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamaldo Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 The SNP have made up for their piss-poor response to the budget with this move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1320Lichtie Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 As opposed to yourself, who is just like this all the time. Just like what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 Just like what? What you accused f_b of being like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 Add the beeb and the itv news to the list of seethers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airdrie Onions Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 Add the beeb and the itv news to the list of seethers Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparky88 Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 Sturgeon (Feb 2015) :- "The SNP have a longstanding position of not voting on matters that purely affect England - such as foxhunting south of the border for example - and we stand by that" Obviously by "stand by that" she really meant "will go back on this position as and when we want to" sturgeons 'tuition fees' moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkoRaj Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 sturgeons 'tuition fees' moment. Yeh same thing really Whatever you say about SNP flip flopping, they are morally right to oppose fox hunting in England and Wales Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaikuHibee Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 I'm glad they did it. The Scotland Bill is a sham. That Bill's important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon EF Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 sturgeons 'tuition fees' moment. Don't embarass yourself. Not one SNP voter will switch their vote because of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 Yeh same thing really Whatever you say about SNP flip flopping, they are morally right to oppose fox hunting in England and Wales So why have they never done it in Scotland? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strichener Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 So why have they never done it in Scotland? Could it just be that the SNP do not see this as a priority? Its not as if they were voting on a bill brought forward by the SNP. The Tories made the proposal, the SNP made their position known. I am sure that the same would be the case if a Conservative MSPs made it a priority in Scotland. Seriously, the question is surely why this was even brought to the house this soon after an election. We seemingly just had a need for an emergency budget but we have plenty parliamentary time for this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkoRaj Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 So why have they never done it in Scotland? 'The second reason is that actually this debate over the past debate has thrown a spotlight onto Scotland’s foxhunting law because what the Conservative government are saying is they’re simply bringing the English law into line with the Scottish law – that’s made a lot of people in Scotland think ‘shouldn’t we be tightening up our law to bring it into line with English law as it stands’. Inevitably there will now be a look at the Scottish law and what we will be looking at is whether the current English law is better and actually there is an interest for us, then, in making sure the English law stays as it is.' Maybe just not been a priority. I can't say I ever knew myself until recently that England had tighter restrictions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkoRaj Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 Spectator, telegraph and the mail make for delicious reading today http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/coffeehouse/2015/07/the-snp-has-struck-its-first-blow-against-english-democracy-it-wont-be-the-last/ http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/11739635/Nicola-Sturgeons-retreat-from-pinciple-will-spark-surge-in-anti-Scottish-sentiment.html http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-3161704/Hypocritical-shameless-unprincipled-Sturgeon-s-stance-hunting-just-start-war-England-writes-CHRIS-DEERIN.html Even channel 4 get in on the act and make the same mistake of talking about England and the English even though this law affects Wales as well http://blogs.channel4.com/gary-gibbon-on-politics/snp-foxhunting-move-raiding-party-english-lawmaking/31149 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antiochas III Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 The funny thing is, all the SNP have done is played chicken with a majority government. They have not actually done any u-turn, or voted on any English (and Welsh) matter which as there is no English Parliament nor Members of an English Parliament they are more than entitled to do so. But lets be honest, the SEETHE from the Unionsts is lovely, especially the ones that in May were seething at the fact SNP were going to abstain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hillonearth Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 Spectator, telegraph and the mail make for delicious reading today http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/coffeehouse/2015/07/the-snp-has-struck-its-first-blow-against-english-democracy-it-wont-be-the-last/ http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/11739635/Nicola-Sturgeons-retreat-from-pinciple-will-spark-surge-in-anti-Scottish-sentiment.html http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-3161704/Hypocritical-shameless-unprincipled-Sturgeon-s-stance-hunting-just-start-war-England-writes-CHRIS-DEERIN.html Even channel 4 get in on the act and make the same mistake of talking about England and the English even though this law affects Wales as well http://blogs.channel4.com/gary-gibbon-on-politics/snp-foxhunting-move-raiding-party-english-lawmaking/31149 The Mail one is especially apoplectic - bits of it read like a Victorian pulp novel: "They want the English to say: 'Be off with you! And good riddance!'" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~ Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 Why are they so up set. if the government voted for it, it would pass regardless of what the SNP or the other parties do.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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