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can't wait for the school holidays to be finished and these itinerant cretins have homework to keep them busy.........meanwhile, getting back on topic, did any of the trialists in the Falkirk game have any opportunities to impress, or was it too one-sided to judge them fairly?

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4-1 win against a young Thistle team tonight. Could have scored a few more and generally played pretty well. Details of starting XI's/goals would undoubtedly be wrong. Someone with a better eye/teamsheet will be able to provide details!

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Who was the number 10 for Queens he was excellent.

According to the official site, we've released 3 trialists who played against Thistle. One was an American forward named Andrew Butterworth, one was ex Morton striker David McNeil and the other was ex East Stirling defender Stephen Tart.

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According to the official site, we've released 3 trialists who played against Thistle. One was an American forward named Andrew Butterworth, one was ex Morton striker David McNeil and the other was ex East Stirling defender Stephen Tart.

Should have been signed purely on the basis of his surname.

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can't wait for the school holidays to be finished and these itinerant cretins have homework to keep them busy.........meanwhile, getting back on topic, did any of the trialists in the Falkirk game have any opportunities to impress, or was it too one-sided to judge them fairly?

Purile tantrums (from you lot) aside, this comment alone is one which imo does a lot more damage than good. Playing and losing heavily in a one-sided game provides opportunities to impress arguably more than being on the winning side. Would it be more sportsmanlike to be handed the ball by your opponents,and remain unchallenged once Falkirk are sufficiently out of reach?? Defending basics like closing down, winning 50/50 headers and trying to stifle are things which should be getting done when you're being scudded, rather thsn an attempt not to lose an already gone game. especially if guys are playing for deals. It's Queen's Park ffs, they'll need to learn fast how to take a pumping.

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Purile tantrums (from you lot) aside, this comment alone is one which imo does a lot more damage than good. Playing and losing heavily in a one-sided game provides opportunities to impress arguably more than being on the winning side. Would it be more sportsmanlike to be handed the ball by your opponents,and remain unchallenged once Falkirk are sufficiently out of reach?? Defending basics like closing down, winning 50/50 headers and trying to stifle are things which should be getting done when you're being scudded, rather thsn an attempt not to lose an already gone game. especially if guys are playing for deals. It's Queen's Park ffs, they'll need to learn fast how to take a pumping.

Unusually, there are parts of this that I agree with. I think it's important to have a mixture of games pre-season, which we seem to have. Some of the games we'll be expecting to be on the backfoot and see less of the ball, such as Falkirk and Hearts (depending on what sort of team they bring) and other games such as the Lowland League opposition, we'll be expecting to have more of the ball. No point in testing players against sides that we should be getting the better of, it doesn't really tell the manager much.

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With Queen's, the pre-season is always a time to try out guys due to the numbers lost from the prior year. Unsigned players are, not unnaturally, holding out just in case someone with cash comes along so don't want to commit to us. If that doesn't happen, the guys might sign for us because they know that the facilities are excellent, easily as good as anything outside the top 4 or 5 clubs in the country. Plus you get some who will happily trade £50 a week for the chance to play on Hampden regularly. We're lucky to have retained a few from last year whom everyone expected to move on, and a number of them have turned down reasonable part time offers. Good on them!

Happily, Gus also has plenty of guys just turning up and looking for the chance to impress. He still has quite a number of games to mix and match things and it'll be a few games into the season, just like last year, before he settles on a team.

If you have a settled side before pre-season starts, then the results in these friendlies might well be reasonably important, but we are still looking to sign guys. The teams in the matches with Thistle and EK this week were quite different with a number of trialists playing in both. That we won both is good, but it means hee-haw in the scheme of things.

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Shaggro's summation is indeed accurate, but for clarification my interest in how our trialists had performed was mainly relating to potential scorers which we were sadly lacking last season - always good to assess a defender when he's under a lot of pressure - less so a finisher who gets little or no opportunity to impress other than hold-up play and the pre-requisite work rate - very seldom nowadays at this level that a regular scorer will be tolerated for long if he's lazy in the other aspects of his game

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