Young Joseph Stalin Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 Democracy in its simplest form is the privatization of power. Policies do not win elections, money does. Presidents and congressman win on larger funded campaigns, not promised policy. Whoever gets more money almost always wins. Who donates? Lobbyists who represent the interests of the Establishment. These donations will be paid back by the politician in policy suited to Establishment interests. Establishment interests almost always oppose the interests of the citizenship. Democracy is the illusion of choice and it's why you are less likely to rebel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I'm Brian Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 Democracy in its simplest form is the privatization of power. Policies do not win elections, money does. Presidents and congressman win on larger funded campaigns, not promised policy. Whoever gets more money almost always wins. Who donates? Lobbyists who represent the interests of the Establishment. These donations will be paid back by the politician in policy suited to Establishment interests. Establishment interests almost always oppose the interests of the citizenship. Democracy is the illusion of choice and it's why you are less likely to rebel. Were this true Scotland would not be in the position it currently sits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young Joseph Stalin Posted March 19, 2015 Author Share Posted March 19, 2015 Were this true Scotland would not be in the position it currently sits. In what sense? I didn't write that post (you can probably tell) but it popped up on my Facebook from a page I follow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamdunk Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 Democracy in its simplest form is the privatization of power. Policies do not win elections, money does. Presidents and congressman win on larger funded campaigns, not promised policy. Whoever gets more money almost always wins. Who donates? Lobbyists who represent the interests of the Establishment. These donations will be paid back by the politician in policy suited to Establishment interests. Establishment interests almost always oppose the interests of the citizenship. Democracy is the illusion of choice and it's why you are less likely to rebel. Copy & Paste job off an american site imo. The capitilisation of the Establishment would suggest some kind of Zeitgeist one too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I'm Brian Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 Well basically Labour and the Tories have a massively larger warchest to fight elections in comparison to the SNP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young Joseph Stalin Posted March 19, 2015 Author Share Posted March 19, 2015 Well basically Labour and the Tories have a massively larger warchest to fight elections in comparison to the SNP. I see. Can you see anyone other than David Cameron or Ed Miliband being our Prime Minister after this general election? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 As Winnie said: No one pretends that democracy is perfect or all-wise. Indeed it has been said that democracy is the worst form of Government except for all those other forms that have been tried from time to time.… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I'm Brian Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 I see. Can you see anyone other than David Cameron or Ed Miliband being our Prime Minister after this general election? Poor effort 0/10 Who currently sits in Bute House? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young Joseph Stalin Posted March 19, 2015 Author Share Posted March 19, 2015 Poor effort 0/10 Who currently sits in Bute House? Nicola Sturgeon, there's plenty of threads to argue about the referendum if you want to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young Joseph Stalin Posted March 19, 2015 Author Share Posted March 19, 2015 Copy & Paste job off an american site imo. The capitilisation of the Establishment would suggest some kind of Zeitgeist one too. @Third_Position, I've posted a few of their things on here before because they speak a lot of sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivo den Bieman Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 "edgy" troll bigs up fascist group on twitter. *sigh* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young Joseph Stalin Posted March 19, 2015 Author Share Posted March 19, 2015 "edgy" troll bigs up fascist group on twitter. *sigh* Trolling? I'm trying to open up a discussion about democracy, a system that sees the people making decisions on our country despite only getting about 20% of the votes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivo den Bieman Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 and in doing so, you turn for vindication to the third position group, aye? good one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I'm Brian Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 Nicola Sturgeon, there's plenty of threads to argue about the referendum if you want to. What's winning the 2007 and 2011 Scottish elections got to do with the referendum. Even poorer effort -2/10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young Joseph Stalin Posted March 19, 2015 Author Share Posted March 19, 2015 and in doing so, you turn for vindication to the third position group, aye? good one. I was just stating where I got the well written post from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivo den Bieman Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 ...only after having been rumbled for a C&P job by another poster. another pisspoor effort from the forum's pantomine fascist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young Joseph Stalin Posted March 19, 2015 Author Share Posted March 19, 2015 ...only after having been rumbled for a C&P job by another poster. another pisspoor effort from the forum's pantomine fascist. I clearly admitted it before being called up on it, but don't let facts get in the way of a easy dig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paranoid android Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 The OP is a bit overstated, but I agree with the basic gist of the point. We're supposed to just accept that because we've had a vote, we've no cause for complaint. The people we elect don't do our bidding - they tow/toe the party line, and do what they want, as opposed to what we want them to do. The vote is a bone that's thrown to us - in this sense, it's illusory. In fact, if you're in the minority, it's an implement of torture - your opinion means f**k-all, but it's ok - because you voted for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menzel Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 Trolling? I'm trying to open up a discussion about democracy, a system that sees the people making decisions on our country despite only getting about 20% of the votes. There are many types of democracy, it's not just one system. Any other fascist groups you're a fan of? Roaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young Joseph Stalin Posted March 19, 2015 Author Share Posted March 19, 2015 There are many types of democracy, it's not just one system. Any other fascist groups you're a fan of? Roaster. Is that any of your business? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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