Dindeleux Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 I’m sure there were similar threats made about being in the home end/cause trouble outsider the ground when they got a smaller than normal Scottish Cup allocation at Pittodrie. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 6 minutes ago, Dindeleux said: I’m sure there were similar threats made about being in the home end/cause trouble outsider the ground when they got a smaller than normal Scottish Cup allocation at Pittodrie. Indeed. The clubs, Police Scotland, and the SFA will have no choice but to take notice when there are thousands of 'bears' wreaking havoc in Aberdeen city centre!!!! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paddymcp Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 (edited) Rangers fan allocation cut. Some good local PR. Rangers fans buy the tickets from Kilmarnock. the end. Edited April 17, 2019 by paddymcp 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 I wonder, how many among the Rangers/Celtic support will take this as a moment of reflection and maybe ask the club to try and do something about the behaviour of their fellow fans which is costing them the ability to get to games?I think I know the answer, but I do note that everyone who wishes to make the case against this has failed to mention any of the reasons Bowie cited for doing it which centre around the creation of a toxic and hostile enviroment by these fanbases. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richie95 Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 This game could potentially bring us into European qualification on a match day where we are celebrating our 150th year. Regardless of who we could have played, the last home match of the season would still be a celebration of this landmark. With such a celebration for all members of the family, surely it would make sense to create events on the match day, in the family stand. I could understand the anger if Rangers could win the title on the last day of the season. But it is a basically a dead rubber game for them anyway. But there is a couple of Rangers fans on my Facebook and Twitter who seem to completely disregard the fact that they will still have 4000 tickets for the game. I am not too sure how many seats, they get for other away grounds, but surely that is still more than what most teams give them anyway. It is hardly like we have now only gave Rangers supporters half of the stand. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Moomintroll Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 I wonder, how many among the Rangers/Celtic support will take this as a moment of reflection and maybe ask the club to try and do something about the behaviour of their fellow fans which is costing them the ability to get to games?I think I know the answer, but I do note that everyone who wishes to make the case against this has failed to mention any of the reasons Bowie cited for doing it which centre around the creation of a toxic and hostile enviroment by these fanbases.No, its always the fault of the diddies, if we aren't denying them the right to express thur kulchur by wrecking our grounds & threatening our fans, we are pandering to theuym. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tam the bud Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 If Kind and Lawwell really wanted to get rid of sectarian from their clubs, then surely they should be supporting what Kilmarnock have done instead of bitching about it. Well done Killie and hopefully more clubs will do the same 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 No, its always the fault of the diddies, if we aren't denying them the right to express thur kulchur by wrecking our grounds & threatening our fans, we are pandering to theuym. There must, MUST, leaving aside all of the patter we all enjoy about how there are no good ones, be some who are saying for f**k sake what a minter this is. The wheels of change turn slowly but Steve Clark set it in motion by defying convention and calling them out directly. Now clubs are looking to take action and the stuff Bowie was saying about people feeling threatened etc must surely strike a chord with someone to say hold on, forget the tears and snotters, we are culpable here. To me its notable by its absence. Is there really no one saying lets take a moment here.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florentine_Pogen Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 Jabba Traynor & the Sevco board must have irrefutable photographic evidence of Wiggy Smith hanging out the back of a goat whilst simultaneously fingerblasting a couple of schoolies...........There is no other explanation for that ludicrous, sycophantic piece of doggerel.He’ll be slobbering down on the Sevco schlong till the day he dies.....🤮 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Moomintroll Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 There must, MUST, leaving aside all of the patter we all enjoy about how there are no good ones, be some who are saying for f**k sake what a minter this is. The wheels of change turn slowly but Steve Clark set it in motion by defying convention and calling them out directly. Now clubs are looking to take action and the stuff Bowie was saying about people feeling threatened etc must surely strike a chord with someone to say hold on, forget the tears and snotters, we are culpable here. To me its notable by its absence. Is there really no one saying lets take a moment here....There are, several members of my family are sick of the whole circus ( they are all Celtic fans) but the normal people who just want to go & watch their team playing football will always be drowned out by the noisy, aggressive, don't give a f**k about basic human decency elements that are prevalent in their support, especially in away games. If you have several hundred vile bigots & wannabe terrorists in close proximity to you, you aren't going to say anything as the police & stewards don't give a f**k & the chances are that a few of the little rats will attack you so what is the point putting yourself in harms way. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 There are, several members of my family are sick of the whole circus ( they are all Celtic fans) but the normal people who just want to go & watch their team playing football will always be drowned out by the noisy, aggressive, don't give a f**k about basic human decency elements that are prevalent in their support, especially in away games. If you have several hundred vile bigots & wannabe terrorists in close proximity to you, you aren't going to say anything as the police & stewards don't give a f**k & the chances are that a few of the little rats will attack you so what is the point putting yourself in harms way. Its saddening. Even the ones on here just deflect and act like school kids claiming those of us who speak on stuff like this are trying to get green dots (?) Its telling that it usually comes from folk who dont attend football matches. I fucking hate attending games where these clubs are involved and thats me before my kids are old enough to be invloved. Its saddening that they are unprepared to acknowledge why these things are happening. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Moomintroll Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 Its saddening. Even the ones on here just deflect and act like school kids claiming those of us who speak on stuff like this are trying to get green dots (?) Its telling that it usually comes from folk who dont attend football matches. I fucking hate attending games where these clubs are involved and thats me before my kids are old enough to be invloved. Its saddening that they are unprepared to acknowledge why these things are happening. It can & only will change if the clubs involved & the authorities make it happen. The clubs will not & the authorities will not so we are stuck with it. But hey, sweep sweep apparently. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 Like it or not, the ‘atmosphere’ they bring is used as a selling point when we market ourselves to the tv companies as a football novelty act. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Moomintroll Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 Like it or not, the ‘atmosphere’ they bring is used as a selling point when we market ourselves to the tv companies as a football novelty act. Which also has to change, there is a lot of soul searching going on down here at the moment regarding racism in the game & every incident is being called out quickly & rightly vilified across all forms of the Media. Now substitute the word racism for sectarianism, is the same thing happening in Scotland? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, Moomintroll said: 9 minutes ago, Dons_1988 said: Like it or not, the ‘atmosphere’ they bring is used as a selling point when we market ourselves to the tv companies as a football novelty act. Which also has to change, there is a lot of soul searching going on down here at the moment regarding racism in the game & every incident is being called out quickly & rightly vilified across all forms of the Media. Now substitute the word racism for sectarianism, is the same thing happening in Scotland? There is. But they don't know what to do about it. England has the resource and quality of football to stamp that all out and continue to thrive. In the corridors of power here their concern is that without the 'edge' that comes with an OF game, Scottish football is of no more interest than English league two to the likes of sky. And that is the sad truth when the business model of the game is to finance it through TV companies run outwith Scotland. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 1 hour ago, paddymcp said: Rangers fans buy the tickets from Kilmarnock. the end. Won't happen due to restricted sale. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Moomintroll Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 There is. But they don't know what to do about it. England has the resource and quality of football to stamp that all out and continue to thrive. In the corridors of power here their concern is that without the 'edge' that comes with an OF game, Scottish football is of no more interest than English league two to the likes of sky. And that is the sad truth when the business model of the game is to finance it through TV companies run outwith Scotland.It is exactly that, sad but true. Would still rather be an impoverished irrelevance than continue to pander to the vile elements within their supports however 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Minertaur Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 Where do you begin? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MEADOWXI Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 26 minutes ago, Dons_1988 said: Like it or not, the ‘atmosphere’ they bring is used as a selling point when we market ourselves to the tv companies as a football novelty act. That will be the 'atmosphere' they have to turn the volume down on due feeling it unacceptable to broadcast the vile words being sung 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 50 minutes ago, Dons_1988 said: There is. But they don't know what to do about it. England has the resource and quality of football to stamp that all out and continue to thrive. In the corridors of power here their concern is that without the 'edge' that comes with an OF game, Scottish football is of no more interest than English league two to the likes of sky. And that is the sad truth when the business model of the game is to finance it through TV companies run outwith Scotland. And yet when Rangers died and before Sevco were in the top league the TV deal didn't get any worse. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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