The Great Big Kilmarnock Thread

[cowboy]

1 hour ago, kennysmassiveego said:

I would also take McGhee ....then hang him from an oak tree in Dean Park 

next to the board who appointed him

[YassinMoutaouakil]

McGhee's a good manager but I think he could do with a wee break from football after his recent prolonged and very public meltdown. Killie could do worse than appointing him in summer though imo.

[mjw]

I was under the impression he got a couple of days break down in Brighton every week.

[Estragon]

I was under the impression he got a couple of days break down in Brighton every week.

Is that a euphemism?

[killienick]

If Saturday was a job interview then McCulloch failed. First half we played well and had a decent shape - you could see that we worked on corners and they nearly worked a couple of times. At this stage I was feeling positive. However, Motherwell made a slight formation change and employed high pressing tactics in the second half to which we countered with - nothing at all. We were pressed into giving possession away far too easily and carried passengers who made little impact in the middle. They went man for man in midfield and bullied us.

For all Sammon played well going forward, he offered little in defence or midfield. McKenzie may as well have been selling pies for all he did during the entire game. Jordan Jones played very well second half but still can't play a final ball so he becomes a liability losing possession. Longstaff - our great white hope from Newcastle, (one of only 2 outfield players wearing gloves BTW),  was easily bullied and pushed off the ball. This was almost the entire midfield for us not pulling their weight and midfield is where we lost the game. Gary Dicker was excellent again on Saturday as he has been since Christmas but he really can't be expected to be a defensive mid as well as a box to box midfield general.

We employed a tactic first half which we obviously tried in training. Our centre halves would split wide, our full backs push into midfield and our sitting midfielder drop deep towards the D. However, rather than being an instinctive shape, the payers lazily wandered into this formation shouting at one another where to go. We were obviously trying to change to a 3-5-2 in attack but it was so languid that by the time we set up - Motherwell had already countered. We were also slow getting back into a defensive shape when we lost possession. This shape obviously inspired Motherwell to play a higher line second half where they exploited our lack of organization and our weakness throughout midfield.

Hopefully when KIltie comes back he will give us some extra bite and drive in the middle as a number 10. Personally, I would drop Longstaff and McKenzie for Frizzel and Kiltie as soon as possible.

 

ETA: As much as we don't like Michael Johnston, it is still saddening to hear the circumstances of his wife's death over the weekend. Joanne was well liked among the Killie support who knew her.

Edited March 6, 2017 by killienick

[S G 07 McH]

If Saturday was a job interview then Boyd failed. At fault at first goal,missed penalty.
If Saturday was a job interview then Ajer failed. Couldn't handle the


If Saturday was a job interview then Woodman failed. Doesn't command his box.
If Saturday was a job interview then Ajer failed. Couldn't handle the physicality of Saturday's game.
If Saturday was a job interview then Boyd failed. At fault with clearance at first goal,missed penalty. And on and on we could go. Truth is we should've won the game, in the first half. Mon the Killie

[Estragon]

If Saturday was a job interview then Boyd failed. At fault at first goal,missed penalty.
If Saturday was a job interview then Ajer failed. Couldn't handle the


If Saturday was a job interview then Woodman failed. Doesn't command his box.
If Saturday was a job interview then Ajer failed. Couldn't handle the physicality of Saturday's game.
If Saturday was a job interview then Boyd failed. At fault with clearance at first goal,missed penalty. And on and on we could go. Truth is we should've won the game, in the first half. Mon the Killie

Thankfully it was a football match...

[C4mmy31]

Congratulations to Greg Taylor on his call up to the Scotland U21's squad for the friendly with Estonia in Paisley .... Well done wee man [emoji16]

[AsimButtHitsASix]

Killie got a wee write up in La Vanguardia (Spain's 4th biggest selling newspaper and biggest selling in Catalunya) if anyone's interested

http://www.lavanguardia.com/deportes/20170314/42862934656/victoria-barcelona-champions-kilmarnock-escocia.html

[craigkillie]

Rough translation based on my shoddy Spanish with a little help from my pal Google:

If Brexit was the new word of 2016, then 2017's is "remuntada".  Gazzetta Dello Sport talked of "remuntada", and so did L'Equipe, The New York Times and the British press.  And not only in the language of sport, but also in politics.  The Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn, twenty points behind the Conservatives in the opinion polls (the equivalent of the 4-0 at the Parc Des Princes), has taken inspiration from the feat at the Nou Camp, and the slogan that nothing is impossible "All is not lost.  If Barcelona can come back, then so can I."

The English word for when a team overturns an adverse result is the much blander "comeback", so it is no surprise that they have adopted the Catalan version for a win which was a rich and romantic.  It could also refer to the last Superbowl, when the Patriots' rose from the ashes with Tom Brady doing a Neymar, or the final of the Champions League in Istanbul, when Liverpool recovered from 3-0 down against AC Milan by scoring three and then winning on penalties.

The biggest "remuntada" in the history of British football came on the 22nd September 1964, in front of 15,000 spectators, when Kilmarnock defeated Eintracht Frankfurt 5-1 in the Fairs Cup.  The Scots had been beaten 3-0 in Germany, and their scarce hopes were struck down after two minutes of the return leg when Huberts thumped one in to give his side an an unsurmountable four goal lead.

Eintracht were at that time one of the strongest sides in Europe, and just four years earlier had played in the European Cup final at Hampden, after eliminating Rangers 10-4 in the semi-final.  Against Real Madrid in the final, their defence and the goalkeeper Egon Loy were unable to hold it together, and Madrid delivered a comprehensive 7-3 win.  The fact that the German goalkeeper was playing on this occasion gave hope to Kilmarnock, even though they had failed to beat him in Frankfurt.

The drama was just getting started.  It continued in the 13th minute, when the referee ignored a possible penalty for the hosts, but the ball made its way to Ronnie Hamilton who made it 1-1.  Only two minutes later, Brian McIlroy got the second goal, and the impossible became a little more possible.  It was still 2-1 at half-time and the visitors grew in confidence.  Killie needed another two goals to force extra time, and maybe even a replay (since away goals did not count double).  In the 52nd minute, central defender Jim McFadzean, who had replaced an injured team-mate, headed the ball into the corner of the net.  The roar of the crowd at Rugby Park became deafening, and intimidated the Germans, who camped themselves in their own half.  The best was yet to come.  In the 82nd minute, Jackie McInally beat Loy with a powerful header, and the game had to be suspended due to a pitch invasion.  After order was restored, from a foul seconds before the final whistle (the same as last Wednesday at the Nou Camp), Ronnie Hamilton scored the fifth to spark chaos.

Kilmarnock are the oldest club in Scotland, founded in 1869 by a group of cricketers who wanted to expand their sporting horizons.  At that time, football was a mix of today's game and rugby, hence the stadium being called Rugby Park.  They are one of few Scottish clubs who have played in all three European competitions (European Cup, UEFA Cup and Cup Winners' Cup), and are currently in eighth place in the Premier League.  But their glory days came in those golden sixties.

After beating Eintracht they lost in the second round to Everton, but months later they won the league (the only one in their history) in extraordinary circumstances, by a margin of 0.042 goals, after winning their final match against Hearts in Edinburgh by a 2-0, just the result they needed.

Apart from football, Kilmarnock (population 45,000) is known as being the town where Robert Burns published his first volume of poems, and for manufacturing Johnny Walker whisky for over three centuries (until 2009).  The Central Belt of Scotland, whose former Labour voters have gone to the SNP, is the key to independence winning.  The first referendum lost by ten points, but at this point who can discount a "remuntada...?

 

[killiepiemuncher]

Rough translation based on my shoddy Spanish with a little help from my pal Google:
If Brexit was the new word of 2016, then 2017's is "remuntada".  Gazzetta Dello Sport talked of "remuntada", and so did L'Equipe, The New York Times and the British press.  And not only in the language of sport, but also in politics.  The Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn, twenty points behind the Conservatives in the opinion polls (the equivalent of the 4-0 at the Parc Des Princes), has taken inspiration from the feat at the Nou Camp, and the slogan that nothing is impossible "All is not lost.  If Barcelona can come back, then so can I."
The English word for when a team overturns an adverse result is the much blander "comeback", so it is no surprise that they have adopted the Catalan version for a win which was a rich and romantic.  It could also refer to the last Superbowl, when the Patriots' rose from the ashes with Tom Brady doing a Neymar, or the final of the Champions League in Istanbul, when Liverpool recovered from 3-0 down against AC Milan by scoring three and then winning on penalties.
The biggest "remuntada" in the history of British football came on the 22nd September 1964, in front of 15,000 spectators, when Kilmarnock defeated Eintracht Frankfurt 5-1 in the Fairs Cup.  The Scots had been beaten 3-0 in Germany, and their scarce hopes were struck down after two minutes of the return leg when Huberts thumped one in to give his side an an unsurmountable four goal lead.
Eintracht were at that time one of the strongest sides in Europe, and just four years earlier had played in the European Cup final at Hampden, after eliminating Rangers 10-4 in the semi-final.  Against Real Madrid in the final, their defence and the goalkeeper Egon Loy were unable to hold it together, and Madrid delivered a comprehensive 7-3 win.  The fact that the German goalkeeper was playing on this occasion gave hope to Kilmarnock, even though they had failed to beat him in Frankfurt.
The drama was just getting started.  It continued in the 13th minute, when the referee ignored a possible penalty for the hosts, but the ball made its way to Ronnie Hamilton who made it 1-1.  Only two minutes later, Brian McIlroy got the second goal, and the impossible became a little more possible.  It was still 2-1 at half-time and the visitors grew in confidence.  Killie needed another two goals to force extra time, and maybe even a replay (since away goals did not count double).  In the 52nd minute, central defender Jim McFadzean, who had replaced an injured team-mate, headed the ball into the corner of the net.  The roar of the crowd at Rugby Park became deafening, and intimidated the Germans, who camped themselves in their own half.  The best was yet to come.  In the 82nd minute, Jackie McInally beat Loy with a powerful header, and the game had to be suspended due to a pitch invasion.  After order was restored, from a foul seconds before the final whistle (the same as last Wednesday at the Nou Camp), Ronnie Hamilton scored the fifth to spark chaos.
Kilmarnock are the oldest club in Scotland, founded in 1869 by a group of cricketers who wanted to expand their sporting horizons.  At that time, football was a mix of today's game and rugby, hence the stadium being called Rugby Park.  They are one of few Scottish clubs who have played in all three European competitions (European Cup, UEFA Cup and Cup Winners' Cup), and are currently in eighth place in the Premier League.  But their glory days came in those golden sixties.
After beating Eintracht they lost in the second round to Everton, but months later they won the league (the only one in their history) in extraordinary circumstances, by a margin of 0.042 goals, after winning their final match against Hearts in Edinburgh by a 2-0, just the result they needed.
Apart from football, Kilmarnock (population 45,000) is known as being the town where Robert Burns published his first volume of poems, and for manufacturing Johnny Walker whisky for over three centuries (until 2009).  The Central Belt of Scotland, whose former Labour voters have gone to the SNP, is the key to independence winning.  The first referendum lost by ten points, but at this point who can discount a "remuntada...?
 

So good I've read it twice.

[Squirrelhumper]

13 hours ago, C4mmy31 said:

Congratulations to Greg Taylor on his call up to the Scotland U21's squad for the friendly with Estonia in Paisley .... Well done wee man

Devlin McKay too.

[DavieM]

Don't know if anyone is interested but there's a bit of chatter about Killie - and Scottish football - on the Lincoln City 'vitals' forum.  Usual pish about how poor the standard is in Scotland...

[Richie95]

Apparently we are linked with Luke Waterfall, a defender and captain for Lincoln city whose contract is out in the summer. Although it's from one of those clickbait sites that keeps on appearing on my Facebook linking every footballer to Rangers, so I'd take it with a pinch of salt. 

[Savage Henry]

Apparently we are linked with Luke Waterfall

I don't believe it's wise for your club to go chasing him.

[Dindeleux]

Apparently we are linked with Luke Waterfall

I don't give a dam about this signing.

[Savage Henry]

Yes, they should definitely stick to the rivers and the lakes that they're used to.

The Dickers and the McPakes* that they're used to, surely.


* Yes, I know he hasn't played for them, but the joke fits.

[Dindeleux]

The Dickers and the McPakes* that they're used to, surely.


* Yes, I know he hasn't played for them, but the joke fits.

That was dreadful.

[JockysJetpack]

Hi all. 

New quiz for you Killie fans- let me know if there are any errors/how you got on! 

https://www.sporcle.com/games/purplefrogg6/kilmarnock-top-5-scorers-since-9899

[KillieMogwai]

On 28/03/2017 at 13:39, DavieM said:

Don't know if anyone is interested but there's a bit of chatter about Killie - and Scottish football - on the Lincoln City 'vitals' forum.  Usual pish about how poor the standard is in Scotland...

Strange, given that pretty much all of the English imports have failed to make the step up, and we've been bailed out by our young lads. And Coulibaly, to be fair.

English football must be in a right state. Alarm bells ringing down there.