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Nothing to stop 2 Fife teams being in gogsy. Remember the opening post states "poised" so let's no get a 10 page thread on something that may not happen.

I was kind of hoping East Fife would be going the other way . Could be two Fife teams in then . :)

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They shouldn't get let in for the name alone. At least BSC Glasgow sounds cool.

Personally I don't mind them getting involved in the pyramid but I'd rather they started in the EoS and move up from there building a team over time rather than plonking them in and scrambling to assemble a team in a short space of time, I have no idea what the Fife amateur is like so I might overstating it. That being said Threave, Selkirk and Preston have been established clubs for years and they aren't doing especially well.

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Your game on Saturday at Irvine Meadow had a crowd of 150?? Our match at East Kilbride a couple of weeks back had at least that, if not more. The difference of 110 years of history between Irvine and East Kilbride doesn't seem to count for much with the paying public.

We were the away team on sat and had a decent away following as usual despite being dire all season!

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We were the away team on sat and had a decent away following as usual despite being dire all season!

Which proves my point even more.

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Your game on Saturday at Irvine Meadow had a crowd of 150?? Our match at East Kilbride a couple of weeks back had at least that, if not more. The difference of 110 years of history between Irvine and East Kilbride doesn't seem to count for much with the paying public.

This.

The Irvine Meadow vs Clydebank match was supposed to be one of the "big crowd" matches of the season, & look what happened? And this was at one of the best stadiums the Juniors has to offer thereby more likely to attract a crowd. Said it before, and will say it again, time the Juniors stopped kidding themselves they're quite the big deal in Scottish football they brag themselves up to be.

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calmac25 had his finger on the pulse for what the possibilities were in Fife:

http://www.pieandbovril.com/forum/index.php/topic/220102-league-vacancies/?p=9141252

Beyond that people can drone on and on with the turgid junior vs senior stuff as much as they like and cherrypick attendance stats to try to bolster whatever point they think they are proving, but it doesn't change the reality that the LL would be a far stronger division if the top east and west superleague clubs had become involved. Suspect it suits the lower division SPFL and former EoS clubs just fine that they didn't.

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calmac25 had his finger on the pulse for what the possibilities were in Fife:

http://www.pieandbovril.com/forum/index.php/topic/220102-league-vacancies/?p=9141252

Beyond that people can drone on and on with the turgid junior vs senior stuff as much as they like and cherrypick attendance stats to try to bolster whatever point they think they are proving, but it doesn't change the reality that the LL would be a far stronger division if the top east and west superleague clubs had become involved. Suspect it suits the lower division SPFL and former EoS clubs just fine that they didn't.

suspect the juniors have had plenty chances to apply and east and west superleague clubs especially have had as much chance as everyone else. Their loss not the LL

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calmac25 had his finger on the pulse for what the possibilities were in Fife:

http://www.pieandbovril.com/forum/index.php/topic/220102-league-vacancies/?p=9141252

Beyond that people can drone on and on with the turgid junior vs senior stuff as much as they like and cherrypick attendance stats to try to bolster whatever point they think they are proving, but it doesn't change the reality that the LL would be a far stronger division if the top east and west superleague clubs had become involved. Suspect it suits the lower division SPFL and former EoS clubs just fine that they didn't.

Don't get why it would suit the SPFL, surely the whole point of the pyramid is to improve Scottish football? Or are you meaning that the bottom end of the SPFL have the same dinosaur approach to Scottish football as the Juniors? Trying to protect the status quo.

Grimbo

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I have no idea why Irvine Meadows crowds are so poor and its not a concern of mine!

The bottom end of the SPFL will be no different to the SJFA in the self preservation stakes.

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Don't get why it would suit the SPFL, surely the whole point of the pyramid is to improve Scottish football? Or are you meaning that the bottom end of the SPFL have the same dinosaur approach to Scottish football as the Juniors? Trying to protect the status quo.

Grimbo

You'll probably be the only one on here that will enjoy the intro to this, but the chorus says it all:

Clubs like Bo'ness United and Linlithgow Rose could easily be as successful as Alloa and Cowdenbeath have been in recent seasons, if they were in the seniors, and if they ever progressed to that point it would inevitably be at the expense of some of the usual suspects at the foot of the SPFL. There are fewer candidates for that sort of thing in the HL and LL, so less scope for turnover in SPFL membership.

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You'll probably be the only one on here that will enjoy the intro to this, but the chorus says it all:

Clubs like Bo'ness United and Linlithgow Rose could easily be as successful as Alloa and Cowdenbeath have been in recent seasons, if they were in the seniors, and if they ever progressed to that point it would inevitably be at the expense of some of the usual suspects at the foot of the SPFL. There are fewer candidates for that sort of thing in the HL and LL, so less scope for turnover in SPFL membership.

Couldn't hear it on my phone.

Oh you mean the SPFL teams that are the relegationeers, aye they won't be happy but doubt they are happy anyway. I would think the top HL/LL teams are as frightening to them as any of the Junior teams would have been.

Grimbo

Ps I take it the tune is the self preservation society. I cannae mind the chorus though. I'll give it a listen when I get hame.

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You'll probably be the only one on here that will enjoy the intro to this, but the chorus says it all:

Clubs like Bo'ness United and Linlithgow Rose could easily be as successful as Alloa and Cowdenbeath have been in recent seasons, if they were in the seniors, and if they ever progressed to that point it would inevitably be at the expense of some of the usual suspects at the foot of the SPFL. There are fewer candidates for that sort of thing in the HL and LL, so less scope for turnover in SPFL membership.

Nae point bleating aboot the juniors on a LL forum until they actually apply or are actually in the thing.

The LL will only get stronger through time juniors or no juniors in it 8)

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Nae point bleating aboot the juniors on a LL forum until they actually apply or are actually in the thing.

The LL will only get stronger through time juniors or no juniors in it 8)

For once you have posted an agreeable post my Newky chum.

If you look at comparing us in the E/SOS Leagues a couple of seasons ago, anyone who's been to any matches can see how much stronger the LL is now in comparison. Assuming we get 2 more teams in next season then it will become even greater with the possible added spice of losing whoever wins our league & the introduction of an ex-SPFL Team.

I can't wait for the new season to start.

Grimbo

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On and on from the usual suspects on the senior vs junior tribalism thing. One interesting angle to this would maybe be whether Austin McCann Soccer would be seen as an acceptable name for a club in the LL or would they be asked to change it? Borders on malignant narcissism once you move from a youth club setup to the professional board level of the game, I would have thought.

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Is says it's a guy Austin McPhee that's behind it on their site?

Shite team name regardless

Edited by geo87

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They could change it to Soccer AM, I'm positive the scum paper would like that.

Might even get a slot on the popular Saturday morning television football chat show?

Grimbo

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On and on from the usual suspects on the senior vs junior tribalism thing. One interesting angle to this would maybe be whether Austin McCann Soccer would be seen as an acceptable name for a club in the LL or would they be asked to change it? Borders on malignant narcissism once you move from a youth club setup to the professional board level of the game, I would have thought.

Funny thing is you can't help yourself but fuel the senior/junior debate :D

This is a thread about a team "poised " to apply for the LL and has hee haw to do with the juniors.

Isn't there a team in Europe named Red Bull Saltzberg named after a major sponsor ?

Whilst it sounds a daft name teams are named after sponsors so nothing imo to stop a team called AM Soccer FC applying.

Who objected to the name EDU Sports Academy they're now a senior club ?

As someone on this thread has stated it could be youth teams/clubs that could be the future of the game ?

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Edu Sports Academy are not licensed and play at the community board level, so it's not really comparable. The EoS and SoS may still be "senior", but are no longer fully on par in status terms with the HL and LL clubs. Just to wind you up I'll provide a junior analogy. When Harthill Royal Bar joined the east region they had to drop the Bar part of their name so they no longer sounded like a pub team. Think, in a similar way, if a youth club starts a professional board level team they should be encouraged to no longer sound like a youth club. If they are based in Cupar, I would have thought that Cupar should probably feature prominently in their name, if they are going to be featuring on the likes of Sky and the BBC when results are being shown.

Edited by LongTimeLurker

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The actual article in today's paper says AM Soccer are groundsharing with East Fife.

Also mentions in passing that four clubs have applied so far for the two LL vacancies.

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How do you put forward 4 years of accounts for SFA licensing when you've never been a football club?

The whole thing stinks,the system is favouring non clubs with no playing or financial history to start up at a moments notice and groundshare.Pyramid?

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