MassiveFanDan Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 We would've won by such a narrow margin that it could've ended up being more disastrous than the loss. "Independence without unanimity means nothing." Gots to get dat 60%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MONKMAN Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 "Independence without unanimity means nothing." Gots to get dat 60%. Wrong. 50% +1 vote is all that it will take. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TapothehullDee Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 If they don;t get these so called reforms, how can they vote to stay in. Absolutely farcical. Still believe country is stupid enough to stay in with these basket case economies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I'm Brian Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 If they don;t get these so called reforms, how can they vote to stay in. Absolutely farcical. Still believe country is stupid enough to stay in with these basket case economies. A UK vote to leave the EU would be one less basket case economy for the EU to worry about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee Willie Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 Why is there an 'In' and an 'Out' option but no 'Shake it all about' option? Granny Danger On behalf of the Hokey Cokey Party Jeez, I'm auld enough tae remember that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crùbag Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 Mean while the nationalists who were so desperate to have "Scottish people making decsions for Scotland" will happily allow MEPs from across the continent make decisions that impact on us.... strange that. They impact on us whether we're in or out. Ask Norway. Ditto the US - we aint a US state but what happens there sure as hell affects us here. And that's before you get onto Trident... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamr Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 I'd rather be ruled from Brussels than from Westminster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete's Frontier Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 So the natsy's all want to stay in with the treaties unchanged, despite the obvious catastrophe it is, and keep kissing the Brussels ring, how unsurprising. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 Jeez, I'm auld enough tae remember that Wee wullie and Granny D reminiscing bout the gid auld days..... could get 6 pints of porter, poke of chips and the bus hame.... all fir thruppence ha'penny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suspect Device Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 I voted for independence in November and will keep voting for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I'm Brian Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 I voted for independence in November and will keep voting for it. You have a holiday home on the Costa Brava? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thumper Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 Malta does alright though, as an independent state. Except it's running out of water now, which is less of a good thing. It's also apparently the only place in the EU where the current generation is less proficient in English than the former, I seem to recall: clearly a warning for our own separation, after which we'll be reduced to barking at each other like animals. Anyway, aye: the EU needs us, either in the UK or by ourselves, and as a result we'll continue to be able to largely pick our own terms for inclusion. That we've heard little positive in this regard of late is entirely due to England and fans of the Scottish branch office of the Labour Party having elected a bunch of c***s whose avowed goal is to sabotage this arrangement to the European Parliament. Once that's corrected, you'll find even fewer people outside of avowed public racists who genuinely oppose EU membership. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TapothehullDee Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 I voted for independence in November and will keep voting for it. Keep playing euro-millions, a triple rollover win is more likely than Independence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~ Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 Why the hate for Brussels, lovely city. Great beers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamr Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 Why? Westminster is extremely outdated and chauvinistic. We also have a horrendously undemocratic upper house, the house of lords, where all members are unelected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Driver eight Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 Out please but into the EFTA and EEA. Norway and Switzerland being our common future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Father Ted Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 The EU is a corrupt, expensive, wasteful, undemocratic bureaucracy. What really pisses me off is that those political parties that are pro EU fail to recognise this. I would buy into the SNP position on Europe if they advocated continual membership but accepted that there should be wholesale structural change. Sadly I think there is more chance of us (the UK or a future independent Scotland) withdrawing than being able to effect meaningful change. There are too many vested interests Agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todders Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 I don't understand why people that voted Yes in September would vote No to leaving the EU. It's essentially the same thing. You wanted rid of the Tories and to deal with your own affairs but the EU is strongly for more austerity and centralising political powers in Brussels. It is far from the same thing. All of the UK's income does not go to Brussels and we are not handed back pocket money to run the country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renton Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 It is far from the same thing. All of the UK's income does not go to Brussels and we are not handed back pocket money to run the country. Yup, the EU doesn't dictate our domestic tax rates, fiscal policies, our minimum wage and welfare policies either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Rational Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 EFTA? I heard we politely asked about that pre-White paper and it's a non starter. They aren't looking for newbies and if anything, are trying to become even closer to the EU without actually being in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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