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Give Soldiers Footballers Wages?


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Why should soldiers be paid £100,000 a week (I'm assuming that's the sort of wage these twitter numpties believe they should get) for a job that they do voluntarily and that can involve killing other people?

It's all part of the "we're nice, they're bad" myth which simply doesn't exist.

A good chunk of army members are utter morons who shouldn't be given a knife to butter a slice of toast, let alone a machine gun.

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brave heroes who save us from muslimism and the nurses should get paid rite as well.....wane rooney gets money for being a fat spunktrumpet who rapes girls and buys cars all day and the soldiers are getting blowed up and the nurses get spitted on by the romanians who steal your wallets then their womin smell

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In my opinion, any soldier who can demonstrate footballing skills equivalent to those of a Premier League Footballer should receive wages equivalent to those of a Premier League Footballer.



And they should play football in the Premier League.


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There seems to be an ongoing fetishisation of the armed forces that maybe started around the time of the second Gulf war, what with the redtops creaming themselves over “our boys”, Veterans Days and the whole Help for Heroes thing.

We don’t have a conscript army anymore though – everyone in ours voluntarily goes into it with their eyes wide open, probably better informed of what the possible consequences could be than at any stage in history, and are in relative terms well paid for it. The army’s an odd beast in terms of demographics however as they draw their recruits largely from either the very top or very bottom end of society, with the Sandhurst mob coming from the public schools – a lot of third sons of the landed classes and minor aristocracy – and the ranks largely coming from backgrounds where the alternative is unemployment or jail. Both ends of the spectrum can bring their own problems with them.

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In my opinion, any soldier who can demonstrate footballing skills equivalent to those of a Premier League Footballer should receive wages equivalent to those of a Premier League Footballer.

And they should play football in the Premier League.

Conversely, any footballer who can hit a journalist with an air rifle a lá Maradona should immediately be shipped to Basra to have his legs blown off for Blighty.

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I wonder how many people would still insist soldiers deserve footballer's wages if you told them how much more tax they'd have to pay to fund it.

It's a poor argument, anyway. What exactly is a "footballer's wage"? Maybe the top 5% (if that) of footballers in the UK earn £100k+ per year, with maybe the top 1 or 2% earning £500k+ a year right up to the £100k+ p/w elite. The vast majority don't earn anything near that. Indeed, a lot of that vast majority will earn wages that are more than attainable in the army if you can climb the ranks. A bit like getting a move from Berwick Rangers to Raith Rovers and then moving on to onto Dundee Utd a few years later, for instance.

And yes, soldiers do a very dangerous job and put their lives on the line. However, no-one is forced to do it and they sign up knowing full well what they're going to get paid for it.

There is a lot of jealousy towards footballers for their earnings, which is always going to happen. That said, the people who do most the work are rewarded handsomely for it at the top level, rather than having the board trousering it all. You could therefore argue their earnings are justified - they are the reason the club gets the money in the first place.

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I have conducted an entirely random draw to find out which club's wage structure this should be based against , the soldiers are very lucky as they can now look forward to traveling expenses on top of their new wage of £0 as the team selected is Queens Park

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Any self respecting member of the armed forces who got a weeks salary equivalent to that of a premiership or top player would disappear in massive cloud of expensive booze, designer sportswear, bizarre niche pornography, class A drugs, random novelty inflatable items and the finest women of dubious virtue that money can buy.

True.

Please note, I am a big supporter of those people brave enough to put their lives on the line in the armed forces. They do a fantastic job that I certainly could not do myself, and certainly deserve a great deal of praise and admiration. Just don’t be a tit about it, eh?

I got as far as the above and stopped reading. I utterly disagree that they are ‘brave’, that they do a ‘fantastic job’ (and that they are somehow almost superhuman and do a job that ‘regular’ folk can’t; you often see a line about how the author couldn’t do the job of a soldier when discussing a topic like this, but why? You would get the same training) and I utterly disagree that they deserve ‘a great deal of praise and admiration’. In fact they deserve zero praise and zero admiration.

Ah I do love the rage you get into when discussing the armed forces,highly amusing.

Getting into the armed forces is hard enough in itself, making it through training is similarly hard. It certainly requires a degree of discipline to get into good enough shape. How would you fare in that aspect?

Likewise I'd say there's been many cases where people in the armed forces have acted bravely.

No. Because I don't want to.

It's not actually a job that is necessary anyway. And I'm not saying all soldiers are c***s and are thick as f**k. But they deserve absolutely zero special treatment or extra respect.

I've yet to meet any who ask for it.

You realise we've sold weapons to these c***s to help us fight the Taliban, yes?

You also realise that our media does a good job of helping them grow by creating hatred, yes?

We gave weapons to Isis?news to me.

Or It means your willing to kill whoever asked for a pay. I can't find respect for anyone willing to do that, no morals.

"whoever " I'd argue that in joining the British Army you'd be aware that they are bound by the Geneva convention, it's unlikely for you to be using deadly force against someone unless they are already using it against you.

– and the ranks largely coming from backgrounds where the alternative is unemployment or jail.

Massive misconception.

Ridiculously pro and ridiculously anti armed forces people are equally as strange as each other.

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