Young Pretender Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 Teams should be encouraged to show ambition off the park as well as on it. Both Duns (with a brand new ground) and Burntisland (with covered enclosure and further expansion of the pavilion) have managed to improve their facilities since joining the EoS. Eyemouth are also working hard to improve their ground. I've read umpteen times that there are amateur clubs good enough (which I have no doubt about) AND better run than a lot of Junior/EoS clubs. What constitutes 'better run'? If they are better run then they should have a committee that are capable of fundraising and accessing grants that allow them to erect a fence and barrier around the pitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 Kelso, Eyemouth, Duns, Coldstream and Peebles didn't used to have a rail, I'm not sure if they all do now. I think a fence or wall round the pitch might be I think Eyemouth, Kelso, Peebles and Tynecastle are the only EOS League clubs without handrails now... the latter 3 plus Ormiston are the only unenclosed, IIRC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old speckled hen Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 I expect that the major stumbling block for these very good and well run amateur clubs obtaining entry to the E of S is the fact that they do not have a place to play that is their own and therefore would be unable to enclose it, erect a hand rail or put up floodlights. Many of them will have to share changing facilities with other teams playing on nearby pitches and I think that was one of the reasons Selkirk FC were not allowed to enter a team in the E of S. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young Pretender Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 Yes. Selkirk planned on using a pitch on the outside of their main pitch for their EoS application. It involved a walk from the dressing room, around the perimeter of the main pitch I think. Like it or not, the EoS will be regarded as Step 6 (6 & 7 if they keep 2 divisions) in the pyramid and there seems little point in bringing in new teams that can't even meet the basic EoS criteria. Why join the league in the first place if just staying there is the limit of your ambition? Regardless of how well a team does on the pitch, they'll not be in a position to achieve promotion to the Lowland League if they don't have an entry level licence. It surely makes sense in having new teams meeting the EoS criteria as a sort of 'halfway house' towards licensing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tynie1874 Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 Alot of people see it as glorified amateurs, don't get me wrong I prefer it to amateurs having playing lowland amateur and EoS in one season. The plus sides are folk staying behind after games for a beer food etc. And sometimes the lure of a signing on fee training gear... As for the leagues, surely an expansion of a couple teams could and would help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastlothianfootballer Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 tynie1874, played in both Lowand and EOS leagues in one season. What an achievment. Well done! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R0b83 Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 Tynie1874 just get rinsed on this site. Starting to feel for the lad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastlothianfootballer Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 well he comes out with some complete and utter dross Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabbageandribs Posted March 8, 2015 Share Posted March 8, 2015 Some of responses here baffle me, it is definately a case of snobbery! With all due respect, what is the difference between meadowbank 3G where leith play and saughton 3G where tollcross play? The difference between fernieside where tynecastle play and Bingham were lochend have played, both ferniesdide and Bingham are almost identical with both having the same council template changing rooms and open public parks. Having played at eos 'grounds', the likes of ormiston and Easthouses, there changing facilities are tiny and pretty rundown, although I understand both are now making improvements and weell done to both teams for this. I couldn't agree more with a the statement above with regards to lowland league killing east of scotland. For the east of scotland to move forward it definately needs a few new introductions and 1 league would be far more interesting IMO. I see people saying that would this amateur team compete in eos etc. but ask yourself would any of the 1st division eos teams compete in the LEAFA premier 1? I genuinely reckon they would all struggle! Teams like ormiston, there team is pencaitland from the LEAFA league last year, same players and management just playing under the ormiston name/badge, a team that never really done anything outside there league which was basically LEAFA 3rd division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doink Posted March 8, 2015 Share Posted March 8, 2015 Two Leagues i say Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RabidAl Posted March 8, 2015 Share Posted March 8, 2015 I'd rather have two leagues, but this playing each other 4 times in the 1st is pissing some people off. EOS is as good as dead since the introduction of the LL. The premier is now just decent and the 1st dire imo. Fucking shame !!!. With one league next season however, there'll be clubs getting pumelled constantly. I couldn't agree more with a the statement above with regards to lowland league killing east of scotland. For the east of scotland to move forward it definately needs a few new introductions and 1 league would be far more interesting IMO. Give it a couple of seasons and it could be a much stronger league. If the pyramid isn't changed in the near future, and once the LL is up to its full quota this summer, the EoS will be the entry point for any ambitious juniors, amateurs and new clubs. The issue might become lack of promotion opportunities to the LL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambob Posted March 8, 2015 Share Posted March 8, 2015 IMO the top 5 teams in the EOS would Deffinately be able to compete with all of the bottom half of the Lowland league, there murder :-P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastlothianfootballer Posted March 9, 2015 Share Posted March 9, 2015 Some of responses here baffle me, it is definately a case of snobbery! With all due respect, what is the difference between meadowbank 3G where leith play and saughton 3G where tollcross play? The difference between fernieside where tynecastle play and Bingham were lochend have played, both ferniesdide and Bingham are almost identical with both having the same council template changing rooms and open public parks. Having played at eos 'grounds', the likes of ormiston and Easthouses, there changing facilities are tiny and pretty rundown, although I understand both are now making improvements and weell done to both teams for this. I couldn't agree more with a the statement above with regards to lowland league killing east of scotland. For the east of scotland to move forward it definately needs a few new introductions and 1 league would be far more interesting IMO. I see people saying that would this amateur team compete in eos etc. but ask yourself would any of the 1st division eos teams compete in the LEAFA premier 1? I genuinely reckon they would all struggle! Teams like ormiston, there team is pencaitland from the LEAFA league last year, same players and management just playing under the ormiston name/badge, a team that never really done anything outside there league which was basically LEAFA 3rd division. You clearly did your research didnt you!?!? Same players and management? A handful of players from the Pencaitland team and a manager! Thats it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beefy Posted March 9, 2015 Share Posted March 9, 2015 Some of responses here baffle me, it is definately a case of snobbery! With all due respect, what is the difference between meadowbank 3G where leith play and saughton 3G where tollcross play? The difference between fernieside where tynecastle play and Bingham were lochend have played, both ferniesdide and Bingham are almost identical with both having the same council template changing rooms and open public parks. Having played at eos 'grounds', the likes of ormiston and Easthouses, there changing facilities are tiny and pretty rundown, although I understand both are now making improvements and weell done to both teams for this. I couldn't agree more with a the statement above with regards to lowland league killing east of scotland. For the east of scotland to move forward it definately needs a few new introductions and 1 league would be far more interesting IMO. I see people saying that would this amateur team compete in eos etc. but ask yourself would any of the 1st division eos teams compete in the LEAFA premier 1? I genuinely reckon they would all struggle! Teams like ormiston, there team is pencaitland from the LEAFA league last year, same players and management just playing under the ormiston name/badge, a team that never really done anything outside there league which was basically LEAFA 3rd division. 'That never really done anything outside there league which was basically LEAFA 3rd division' League and Cup Winners in the Mickey Mouse 3rd Division Beaten Semi Finalists in both the major cup competitions in LEAFA: Centenary & Logan Cup, firstly after ET v Heriot Vale(premier league winners that year) 3-2 and then in the other one we battered Musselburgh(league leaders this year) for 120 minutes then got beat on penalties. Beaten Finalists in another cup with Shotts who also won the National South Cup and either the Centenary or the Logan. The Ormiston starting line up on Saturday was as follows: 1. Ross Combe (Dalkeith Juniors) 2. Jordan Mack (Edinburgh United) 3. Keiran Watson (Dunbar United) 4. John Morgan (Dunbar United) 5. Ross Ferguson (Tranent Juniors) 6. Johnny Edmund (Musselburgh Athletic U-20s) 7. Dan Watson (Tranent Juniors) 8. George Cunningham (Preston Athletic) 9. Dean Woods (Pencaitland) 10. Declan Quinn (Pencaitland) 11. Lee John Cockerill ( Pencaitland) 12. Craig Wojtowycz (Haddington Athletic) 14. Steven Finlayson (Tranent Juniors) 15. Redmond Barker (Musselburgh Athletic) 16. Brian McEwan (Ormiston) 17. Liam Skinner (Pencaitland) Trust next time you post you may wish to check facts, 3 players in the starting line up doesn't constitute a team!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puma king Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 'That never really done anything outside there league which was basically LEAFA 3rd division' League and Cup Winners in the Mickey Mouse 3rd Division Beaten Semi Finalists in both the major cup competitions in LEAFA: Centenary & Logan Cup, firstly after ET v Heriot Vale(premier league winners that year) 3-2 and then in the other one we battered Musselburgh(league leaders this year) for 120 minutes then got beat on penalties. Beaten Finalists in another cup with Shotts who also won the National South Cup and either the Centenary or the Logan. The Ormiston starting line up on Saturday was as follows: 1. Ross Combe (Dalkeith Juniors) 2. Jordan Mack (Edinburgh United) 3. Keiran Watson (Dunbar United) 4. John Morgan (Dunbar United) 5. Ross Ferguson (Tranent Juniors) 6. Johnny Edmund (Musselburgh Athletic U-20s) 7. Dan Watson (Tranent Juniors) 8. George Cunningham (Preston Athletic) 9. Dean Woods (Pencaitland) 10. Declan Quinn (Pencaitland) 11. Lee John Cockerill ( Pencaitland) 12. Craig Wojtowycz (Haddington Athletic) 14. Steven Finlayson (Tranent Juniors) 15. Redmond Barker (Musselburgh Athletic) 16. Brian McEwan (Ormiston) 17. Liam Skinner (Pencaitland) Trust next time you post you may wish to check facts, 3 players in the starting line up doesn't constitute a team!!!! em kindergarden error there as the teams web says different. could be a typo or a simple slip of the pen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beefy Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 em kindergarden error there as the teams web says different. could be a typo or a simple slip of the pen For the avoidance of doubt 'puma king' starting line up means those numbered 1-11, not sure what you think it means? The two subs available to us on Saturday were Wojtowycz and Finlayson? Barker was suspended, McEwan was working, Skinner and David Ross (Tranent Juniors, omitted from my list above) were injured. The point of the post was to highlight the fact that the team doesn't just comprise of ex Pencaitland players. Not really sure what your post was alluding to?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puma king Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 For the avoidance of doubt 'puma king' starting line up means those numbered 1-11, not sure what you think it means? The two subs available to us on Saturday were Wojtowycz and Finlayson? Barker was suspended, McEwan was working, Skinner and David Ross (Tranent Juniors, omitted from my list above) were injured. The point of the post was to highlight the fact that the team doesn't just comprise of ex Pencaitland players. Not really sure what your post was alluding to?? who mentioned your starting team ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnie_man Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 So who are the club who have enquired about SJFA membership? It was mentioned at a recent Juniors meeting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macca1875 Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 Ormiston I believe. Don't think there pursuing that anymore though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnie_man Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 Would be good to have them back, they seem to be going nowhere fast in the EoSFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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