Lisa Cuddy Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 In the sense of personality and behaviour, genes only offer potential. Nurture does way more than nature in determining behaviour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandarilla Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 In the sense of personality and behaviour, genes only offer potential. Nurture does way more than nature in determining behaviour. Yeah - but potential can be very different. I'm not saying genetics is more important, or even equal to, environment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 If the Pope was to come out and say "hang the niggers!" THE KING would try and find ways to defend it.I think it was the last one that said that tbf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WFAANW Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 I mind the look on my wee one's face when she caught her finger in a closing door. The terror, pain and shock that was in her face haunted me for weeks, and this was a complete "accident" after one of the cats nudged the door shut. I simply cannot imagine what it must feel like for a child to have their own fucking parents inflict that kind of misery upon them. FTFY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pull My Strings Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 Yeah - but potential can be very different. I'm not saying genetics is more important, or even equal to, environment. Sure there may be a genetic influence but if you're a bastard to your kids then they're going to be fucked up, even with the best genes in the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat(The most tip top) Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 Given that the defence of hitting children has now been reduced to arguing that some people are born so genetically deficient that violence is the only thing they'll understand, I reckon that the wishy washy liberals can call this a win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweet Pete Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 Waffen thin mint is Bible John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandarilla Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 Given that the defence of hitting children has now been reduced to arguing that some people are born so genetically deficient that violence is the only thing they'll understand, I reckon that the wishy washy liberals can call this a win. Well that's clearly not true. Some tube claimed all kids were born perfect and parents were always to blame when things went wrong. This is blatantly bollocks. Pointing this out doesn't put you on the side of the parents who smack their kids. I'm on the wishy washy liberal side (as any of my posts on the first couple of pages will testify). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pull My Strings Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 Well that's clearly not true. Some tube claimed all kids were born perfect and parents were always to blame when things went wrong. This is blatantly bollocks. Pointing this out doesn't put you on the side of the parents who smack their kids. I'm on the wishy washy liberal side (as any of my posts on the first couple of pages will testify). Don't be so literal. The comment that kids are born perfect, i.e. without behavioural problems in this context, was directly in response to the assertion that some kids are born uncontrollable. Kids are shaped by their environment and parents are responsible for that environment. Any other approach is a fucking cop-out. For the record, I'm not blaming parents for giving their children inherited or random diseases. That would be absurd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 You got a lot of time for studying child psychology and development between driving that taxi? Haven't driven a taxi for years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandarilla Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 Don't be so literal. The comment that kids are born perfect, i.e. without behavioural problems in this context, was directly in response to the assertion that some kids are born uncontrollable. Kids are shaped by their environment and parents are responsible for that environment. Any other approach is a fucking cop-out. For the record, I'm not blaming parents for giving their children inherited or random diseases. That would be absurd. I'm not saying genetics is just about the diseases, it's got to be more than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattydfc Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 if a bitch needs to be hit then she needs to be hit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monster Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 Going back to the original point, rather than dancing around this, at what point does it then become acceptable to hit an uncontrollable child? If they're hitting your leg? After 18 minutes of misbehaving? When you're only half-pissed and your coupon goes down to an 89th minute equaliser at Ibrox leaving you skint, beerless and fucking furious. Eh....I'm told. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE KING Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 When you're only half-pissed and your coupon goes down to an 89th minute equaliser at Ibrox leaving you skint, beerless and fucking furious. Eh....I'm told. So Moonster...sorry Monster..you slap your kids then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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