WaffenThinMint Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 Coo... coo... coo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim O'Grady Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 Exactly Tam, the Pennypit for this pish, erm shite. Grimbo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heedthebaa Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 awa' back tae Pennypit before the Panners miss you! ???????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calmac25 Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 Spotted this on twitter and SLFL website. Prettymuch as expected/it says on the tin: http://www.peeblesshirenews.com/sport/football/articles/2015/01/18/521639-vale-set-to-celebrate-125th-anniversary-with-survival-plan/ From this article it says that yesterday was the big day for vale of leithens licencing review. From the pictures of the game against bbc it doesn't look like the work on the enclosure or pitch perimeter fence has been completed so likely they will have to wait until May at least to get their licence. As for new teams... I passed marine drive on sunday, still not enclosed but portacabins in behind the goals and two prefab enclosures facing each other yet to be put in to position. Looks doubtful that they will apply based on that. From their website they have the licencing committee visiting on the 18th of March. Anybody aware of any other teams being assessed this month? Mayne we'll have a better idea of applicants if the sfa update their website after the March reviews are completed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 BSC Glasgow and the two Unis will be the other ones. Did Dalbeattie and Gala get their licences? Think they did but not 100% sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calmac25 Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 Both got entry level towards end of last year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geo87 Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 What happens if any current LL teams don't meet licensing criteria by the deadline? Do they lose their place in the league? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 Yes, they'll be demoted to either the EoS or SoS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranaldo Bairn Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 Also: the last placed LL team has to play off for survival, is that right? Do the SOS and EOS teams play off first to decide who plays them? Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 The LL constitution isn't on their website so not sure that's 100% clear at the moment. It may only apply once they are up to their full complement of 16 clubs and also as things stand at the moment there are no entry level licensed clubs in the EoS and SoS leagues eligible to take their place should they wind up as league champions, although that may change before the end of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RabidAl Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 Think it's mentioned in the SoS league documents that there's provision for their winners to play off vs EoS winners for a place in LL - IF they're licenced. As it stands, Edinburgh Uni and Vale are the only LL clubs not licenced. Could mean back to 12 for next season... {Only Linlithgow Rose and Banks O'Dee (outside of SPFL, HL, LL) are licenced.} http://www.scottishfa.co.uk/football_document_libraries.cfm?page=2570 EDIT - South of Scotland Football League Championship Competition Rules: 18. The winners of the League championship shall hold the trophy for one year. As part of the Scottish FA “Pyramid” system, the South of Scotland Football League is “opened” up to promotion and relegation, to and from the Scottish Lowland Football League. 18.1 The winners of the South of Scotland Football League may be promoted to the Scottish Lowland Football League provided that the club meets the required entry criteria. Promotion is mandatory, providing the necessary entry criteria and qualifying process is met. 18.2 Clubs being relegated from the Scottish Lowland Football League will be allowed to join the South of Scotland Football League, provided they meet the entry criteria. *Can't find any specific reference to the play off in here, but it was in last year's (I think). Take it that's what the 'qualifying process' is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marksadams11 Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 Ashfield pitch is not big enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted March 14, 2015 Author Share Posted March 14, 2015 'Border Telegraph', Wednesday past. "Although Coldstream have yet to make an announcement, it is believed they will apply to join the Lowland League". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parsforlife Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 Tbh that doesn't really mean much more than speculation on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted March 14, 2015 Author Share Posted March 14, 2015 Just saying after someone on the previous page was talking about Civil Service Strollers and Vale of Leithen. First time I've seen them mentioned in local press in that way. Also: the last placed LL team has to play off for survival, is that right? Do the SOS and EOS teams play off first to decide who plays them? In principle bottom is relegated and winner of EOS-SOS playoff is promoted. In practice must be low odds that either champion is licensed, plus the possibility must be high that 14th will survive anyway: returning through vacancy process / not enough eligible clubs applying for vacancies / current clubs not obtaining licensed and being demoted / etc. could all be potential reasons I'd imagine? Confusing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stanley Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 As it stands, Edinburgh Uni and Vale are the only LL clubs not licenced. I thought it was those two plus Stirling Uni and BSC Glasgow? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Hardy Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 Stirling Uni and BSC are unlicenced at the moment, In the case of the Uni. using Forthbank obviously will meet all the ground criteria, so if that makes the licence a formality, anyone know as to why they are not already licenced? Rumour has it that BSC may be given more time to sort out their situation, to me that maybe partly down to their application to join the LL was with a different groundshare. I don't understand the ins and outs of licencing, but deadlines must be the same for everyone, when exactly is this? Any teams without licence, will they be demoted back to EoS/SoS leagues? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voice of Reason Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 Stirling Uni and BSC are unlicenced at the moment, In the case of the Uni. using Forthbank obviously will meet all the ground criteria, so if that makes the licence a formality, anyone know as to why they are not already licenced? Rumour has it that BSC may be given more time to sort out their situation, to me that maybe partly down to their application to join the LL was with a different groundshare. I don't understand the ins and outs of licencing, but deadlines must be the same for everyone, when exactly is this? Any teams without licence, will they be demoted back to EoS/SoS leagues There is a lot more to getting a licence than having a fit ground. It is all about how the club is run - coaching standards, first aid, governance, codes of conduct, insurance, finance etc. Most clubs find it takes about 9-12 months to get their licence even if their ground is to licensing standards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RabidAl Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 I thought it was those two plus Stirling Uni and BSC Glasgow? Stirling Uni and BSC are unlicenced at the moment, In the case of the Uni. using Forthbank obviously will meet all the ground criteria, so if that makes the licence a formality, anyone know as to why they are not already licenced? Rumour has it that BSC may be given more time to sort out their situation, to me that maybe partly down to their application to join the LL was with a different groundshare. I don't understand the ins and outs of licencing, but deadlines must be the same for everyone, when exactly is this? Any teams without licence, will they be demoted back to EoS/SoS leagues? Yep, my mistake. I was going by the SFA's most recent licencing s/s which doesn't have those two in their list of LL clubs - maybe because they're not SFA members, yet? So that would be Vale, the two Unis, and BSC unlicenced. The SPFL deadline for registration of a club's home ground is 1st June - so that might be a guide. On the other hand, licences seem to be up for review at any point in the year depending upon application date. Wouldn't they just grant a waiver of year's grace to any un-licenced LL club, rather than see the league membership fall to (potentially) 10 clubs? That might make the LL look a bit flimsy as a regional feeder for the national leagues - and the likes of me might strike up with seniors/juniors all-in, N/E/W regions from tier 3/4, arguments again... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcastle broon Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 Yep, my mistake. I was going by the SFA's most recent licencing s/s which doesn't have those two in their list of LL clubs - maybe because they're not SFA members, yet? So that would be Vale, the two Unis, and BSC unlicenced. The SPFL deadline for registration of a club's home ground is 1st June - so that might be a guide. On the other hand, licences seem to be up for review at any point in the year depending upon application date. Wouldn't they just grant a waiver of year's grace to any un-licenced LL club, rather than see the league membership fall to (potentially) 10 clubs? That might make the LL look a bit flimsy as a regional feeder for the national leagues - and the likes of me might strike up with seniors/juniors all-in, N/E/W regions from tier 3/4, arguments again... Hasn't a years grace already been granted thus leading into a 2nd year ? Doubt it'll ever go down to 10 when the likes of Coldstream, Duns, Burntisland, Strollers and others ? all very close to license status. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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