1320Lichtie Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 Does anyone outside Wales actually give a shit about Wales? I'm sure if they ever have an independence referendum the English will declare how much they love and care about them... That's the only time rUK has ever gave a shit about Scotland. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oddly optomistic Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 Same old arguments over nukes. Couldn't we secretly invest in some genius to invent some flubber like slime capable of neutralising them. That'd be awesome ???? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuddieInDundee Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 I'm sure if they ever have an independence referendum the English will declare how much they love and care about them... That's the only time rUK has ever gave a shit about Scotland. Well that or whenever we kick up a fuss about trident, even then it's a patronising kind of 'sit down, son' we get. Amusingly enough a few of the Welsh seemed excited at the prospect of trident being based with them whenever Scotland gains independence. Imagine being tragic enough to think having a nuclear missile system would be a great benefit to your country. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antlion Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 Watching this, I couldn't help but get the impression that most of the audience in Wales hated Wales. These were "super duper BritNat Max" characters. I don't know much about the Welsh; do the majority still see Wales as a part of England (as Henry VIII made it)? Unlike Scotland, it wasn't a signatory to the Treaty of Union nor a separate sovereign state - it was legally the west of England. It takes a special kind of idiot to say that devolution should be reversed because you don't like what the people elected to it have done. Leanne Wood was quite right to say that, by that logic, the fool should be demanding that Westminster is abolished and UK sovereignty given away to Brussels or elsewhere if he disliked the incumbent government's record. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fudge Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 Wales is a damp field in England. They see themselves as the irrelevance they are 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooky Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 They only voted to have an Assembly by 51%-49% or something like that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1320Lichtie Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 Gareth Bale though.. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuddieInDundee Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 Can't stand him. No idea why, just has a face that I'd never tire of kicking. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antlion Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 No idea why it didn't occur to anyone to answer the question about why the SNP are doing so well in Scotland and Plaid aren't in Wales with the obvious answer: Scotland is a different country historically and politically. One might as well ask why the Tories do so well in England but Plaid don't. It's simply evidence of intranational divergence which makes a one nation model of union untenable: we have different ideas about the future. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mizfit Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 Wales is a shithole, inhabited by people with horrendous accents who struggle to make sentences. Gareth Bale himself is the worst Welshman ever. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ad Lib Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 Laugh at Wales all you like but they've had more world class footballers in their national team in the last 20 years than we have. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mizfit Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 Laugh at Wales all you like but they've had more world class footballers in their national team in the last 20 years than we have. Aye, but at least we have an independent cricket team. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bully Wee Villa Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 They've got a team in the County Championship though. Anyway I'm not going to slag them off as they control the Midlands water supply. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 Laugh at Wales all you like but they've had more world class footballers in their national team in the last 20 years than we have. In all honesty Wales have been shite for the entirety of my life until Bale popped up, Bale has given them a wee bit of the x factor in recent times but they're only a Bale leg break away from obscurity again. The oval ball carries far far more sway in the majority Wales. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invergowrie arab Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 Ask Kuwait. Who in Kuwait should I ask? I don't believe for a second you buy the war of liberation bullshit. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 Who in Kuwait should I ask? I don't believe for a second you buy the war of liberation bullshit. Erm, the US was absolutely duty bound to intervene. Morally, militarily, whichever grounds you choose. They were obligated. The peoples of Kuwait and Kurdistan absolutely were liberated from persecutive occupation by the actions of the West in the early 90s. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ad Lib Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 Who in Kuwait should I ask? I don't believe for a second you buy the war of liberation bullshit. I think that the vast majority of Kuwaiti civilians are grateful that Bush Sr. and Major kicked Saddam Hussein the f**k out of their country. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUFC90 Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 (edited) Erm, the US was absolutely duty bound to intervene. Morally, militarily, whichever grounds you choose. They were obligated. The peoples of Kuwait and Kurdistan absolutely were liberated from persecutive occupation by the actions of the West in the early 90s.Aye and then we sanctioned the Iraqis for 10 years killing an estimated 1 million people. Bravo.Also, lets not forget who made Iraqs military so powerful. Edited October 3, 2015 by AUFC90 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strichener Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 I'll ask again. If we did the job with the First Iraq War, why did we need the second? Did we get it wrong, do a bad job the first time or was the political decisions short term? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strichener Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 (edited) I hear there has been some "collateral damage" in Afghanistan today. Ironically the same number of people confirmed dead as in the US shooting in Oregon. I fully expect Obama to be on the TV tonight with similar sentiments as he displayed after Oregon. The UK meantime is busy condemning Russia for bombings in Syria that we say are not against IS. It appears that only countries that we collude with that are allowed to bomb foreign countries. I have yet to hear the UK condemning the US for bombing a hospital that the US had been given the co-ordinates of less than a week previously and continue to bomb for 30mins after being told what they were bombing. Of course when we look back on this in 10 or 15 years we will find some way to justify it. Edited October 3, 2015 by strichener 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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