speckled tangerine Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 Oh Welshy! ImageUploadedByPie & Bovril1446188273.456422.jpg One family that will be worse off with the tax credit cut. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Gaines Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 BerwickMad just going back to being a pish troll I see. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparky88 Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 No one answered Billy Bragg when he asked where everyone who lost a manufacturing job was supposed to go. Is the service sector really big enough for all of us? The journalist seemed to be of the opinion that because no one cared about journalists losing their jobs then we shouldn't care about anyone losing a job. probably because Bragg's question doesn't mean anything- get a job somewhere else or retrain is probably the answer. The service sector is massive, over 70% of people are employed there compare to manufacturing which is less than 10 % iirc (according to 2011 census so itll be lower now). In any case ( this was 5 years ago) Britain was still the 6th biggest manufacturer in the world. It's just completely inefficient to pay a british person £7 an hour to do something that a Chinese person will do for £2 or whatever. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Gaines Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 Aye, get a job somewhere else. Very simple. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fide Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 21 minutes in. http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b06n4g50/question-time-29102015 "met with silence here...." :lol: Holy shitballs! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin_Nevis Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 21 minutes in. http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b06n4g50/question-time-29102015 "met with silence here...." :lol: Holy shitballs! That was very awkward. She is an absolute fucking shambles. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antlion Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 Did Kezia do her angry face? Pleasing to hear she fared dreadfully. She'd clearly been briefed to talk slowly (to sound sinceeeeere), not mention the SNP (which hamstrung her) and talk about Scotland as much as possible (to derisive mockery from FT lady, who saw through her embarrassing bagpiping). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparky88 Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 Aye, get a job somewhere else. Very simple.Exactly the same would apply if a big call centre closed. Manufacturing is no different from any other industry in this regard. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin_Nevis Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 She'd clearly been briefed to talk slowly (to sound sinceeeeere), not mention the SNP (which hamstrung her) and talk about Scotland as much as possible (to derisive mockery from FT lady, who saw through her embarrassing bagpiping). I thought she was about to break into song at one point. 21:14 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crùbag Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 Just catching up. Annabel Goldie not happy at the Lords... holy f....rank hypocrisy. And Kez... another disaster for the Branch Office here. Speaks like a happy clappy religious nut. No, she doesn't inspire. No wonder there was complete silence from the audience. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Stubbs Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 I wish they'd have a Tory MP or a UKIP MEP on when filming in Scotland. It's almost as if they're happy to throw shite at us down south but won't come up north to justify some of the comments It's exactly like that. South of the border, posters of Salmond pick pocketing, "they want your money" etc etc. North of the border: Your posh auntie Annabelle and chubby-cheeked Ruthie cracking a few jokes. Fools absolutely nae c**t. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjw Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 probably because Bragg's question doesn't mean anything- get a job somewhere else or retrain is probably the answer. The service sector is massive, over 70% of people are employed there compare to manufacturing which is less than 10 % iirc (according to 2011 census so itll be lower now). In any case ( this was 5 years ago) Britain was still the 6th biggest manufacturer in the world. It's just completely inefficient to pay a british person £7 an hour to do something that a Chinese person will do for £2 or whatever. It's not just a question of wages though. The cost of shipping goods back from China has seen a lot of companies reversing their decision to manufacture down there. If you add in money lost due to poor quality of goods, I'm not so sure a British worker is more expensive in the long run. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRob72 Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 Manufacturing represents around 9% of the Workforce in the UK, the Public Sector 20% of the Workforce. Manufacturing creates 12% of GDP, The Public Sector spends 40% of it. Not sure how long we can continue to afford this, without a huge boost to what we make and sell to support it. Low paid call centre work isn't the answer. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparky88 Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 Manufacturing represents around 9% of the Workforce in the UK, the Public Sector 20% of the Workforce. Manufacturing creates 12% of GDP, The Public Sector spends 40% of it. Not sure how long we can continue to afford this, without a huge boost to what we make and sell to support it. Low paid call centre work isn't the answer. Other service related industries like tourism are the answer, not manufacturing stuff that can be made cheaper elsewhere. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Jeremy Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 I was in the audience last night at QT. Interesting how they do it. The programme is pretty much unedited. As far as I can see there was only one audience comment that didn't make the final programme and that was because the woman fell apart and was just rambling a load of nonsense, not because she was saying anything controversial. Also, we hadn't really started at all until about half 8 but they were in no hurry. Usual Edinburgh mix - Scottish, English, Financial Services types, students, transvestites. I like Billy Bragg but he's coming from an English perspective and banging a drum for a Labour revival which was met with a mixed response. Keith Brown was fairly standard but went down well. Annabel Goldie doesn't like the Lords but is happy to be in it! The journalist woman went down reasonably well despite being very capitalist and saying the odd thing that she knew wouldn't be well received and Kez who is like your mate's wee sister being in charge of the Labour party. She seems like a nice enough woman but how she's got to where she is is a complete mystery to me. Scottish Labour must be in a very bad way if she's the best they've got. Oh and David Dimbelby, much to my surprise is quite a funny man. Interesting experience if anyone is thinking about trying it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 Catching up just now. Kezia felt she had to vote for someone who could be Prime Minister, so she voted for Yvette Cooper. And then THAT silence. They are dead in the water. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hampden Diehard Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 Exactly the same would apply if a big call centre closed. Manufacturing is no different from any other industry in this regard. Manufacturing tends to generate allied employment via suppliers, those you sell to and shippers. That's not the same with someone answering the phone. Germany manages to keep a reasonable level of manufacturing and is a very strong economy. Relying on the City of London, personal credit and soaring house prices in certain areas is no way to maintain a healthy economy. We're kidding ourselves on if we think so. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fide Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 Manufacturing represents around 9% of the Workforce in the UK, the Public Sector 20% of the Workforce. Manufacturing creates 12% of GDP, The Public Sector spends 40% of it. Not sure how long we can continue to afford this, without a huge boost to what we make and sell to support it. Low paid call centre work isn't the answer. Pooling and sharing resources, probably. #werebettertogether 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 Dimbelby asks Kezia what happens if the Tories beat them in the Holyrood election. Kezia laughs it off. Now traditionally, you would say that it will never happen, but given the recent results, should it be something Labour are worried about? After all, no-one would ever win a majority at Holyrood. The SNP would never be the biggest Scottish party at Westminster. Labour would never get utterly destroyed at a General Election in Scotland. Surely, by now, Scottish Labour have to realise they can't just keep battering on with the arrogant belief that people will vote for them just because they are Scottish Labour? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjw Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 Pooling and sharing resources, probably. #werebettertogether An independent Scotland would have to face the same issues. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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