Question Time

[sparky88]

4 minutes ago, BawWatchin said:

You must have missed the part where Fiona Bruce asked if there were any SNP supporters in the audience and 3 or 4 people put their hands up. Unionists and leavers are delusional if they think this programme is against them.

There isn't a single supporter of a political party that thinks the media is biased towards their point of view.

[BawWatchin]

3 minutes ago, sparky88 said:

There isn't a single supporter of a political party that thinks the media is biased towards their point of view.

Yes. But how many can actually prove it like we can?

[sparky88]

3 minutes ago, BawWatchin said:

Yes. But how many can actually prove it like we can?

A unionist supporter would just point to The National as evidence of bias, the only newspaper created in the UK to cater for a specific political point of view. 

That's part of being a supporter of a political party I guess.

 

[dirty dingus]

2 minutes ago, sparky88 said:

A unionist supporter would just point to The National as evidence of bias, the only newspaper created in the UK to cater for a specific political point of view. 

That's part of being a supporter of a political party I guess.

 

Aye?

[BawWatchin]

Just now, sparky88 said:

A unionist supporter would just point to The National as evidence of bias, the only newspaper created in the UK to cater for a specific political point of view. 

That's part of being a supporter of a political party I guess.

Ok, well for starters. "The National" is just that. It doesn't pretend to be impartial or representative of everybody. Secondly, you don't have to pay a penny towards The National if you don't want to. They won't send threatening letters through your door. Thirdly, saying they're the only paper in the UK to cater for a specific political point of view is hilarious. Try finding an impartial article regarding the SNP or independence in the Daily Mail, The Express, The Telegraph, The Scotsman or The Times. You've then got papers like the Morning Star, which push far-left socialist views. The Guardian which is known for it's support for Blairism and The Sun. The BBC claims to be "balanced". It's funded by public money, despite serving the private interests that own them. If you decide you don't want to watch it or pay for it anymore, they'll send a couple of fat blokes in black tops to your door to set you straight.
 

[Tibbermoresaint]

9 minutes ago, sparky88 said:

A unionist supporter would just point to The National as evidence of bias, the only newspaper created in the UK to cater for a specific political point of view. 

 

 

You clearly know nothing about UK newspapers.

[sparky88]

5 minutes ago, dirty dingus said:

Aye?

They weren't created to advance those views. Daily Mail was aimed squarely at women when it was first created, now it objectified them. The National will never support the Union.

[sparky88]

14 minutes ago, MixuFixit said:

They're plants because they keep getting in and they keep getting questions despite being unrepresentative of the views of the place they're filming in and bad faith people keep saying it's a coincidence.

That's not what a plant is. 

[Tibbermoresaint]

9 minutes ago, sparky88 said:

They weren't created to advance those views. Daily Mail was aimed squarely at women when it was first created, now it objectified them. The National will never support the Union.

They exist to advance those views.

[ayrmad]

25 minutes ago, sparky88 said:

A unionist supporter would just point to The National as evidence of bias, the only newspaper created in the UK to cater for a specific political point of view. 

That's part of being a supporter of a political party I guess.

 

That's the sort of post a staffer would make on platforms across the internet.

[BawWatchin]

11 minutes ago, sparky88 said:

They weren't created to advance those views.

[sparky88]

2 minutes ago, BawWatchin said:

No UK national newspaper has been created to advance a particular political point of view except the National. The Sun changes it's stance every election. The National will never do that.

[sparky88]

8 minutes ago, Tibbermoresaint said:

They exist to advance those views.

Nope.

These newspapers editorial stances have changed multiple times throughout their history.

[BawWatchin]

Just now, sparky88 said:

No UK national newspaper has been created to advance a particular political point of view except the National. The Sun changes it's stance every election. The National will never do that.

Or the national is the only newspaper in the UK that's honest about where it stands. While rags like The Scotsman and The Daily Mail kid on that they are "impartial" while actively brainwashing the old and senile.

[sparky88]

1 minute ago, BawWatchin said:

Or the national is the only newspaper in the UK that's honest about where it stands. While rags like The Scotsman and The Daily Mail kid on that they are "impartial" while actively brainwashing the old and senile.

That's one way to spin it I guess.

[Tibbermoresaint]

5 minutes ago, sparky88 said:

Nope.

These newspapers editorial stances have changed multiple times throughout their history.

Do you genuinely not understand the difference between the past and the present?

[sparky88]

1 minute ago, Tibbermoresaint said:

Do you genuinely not understand the difference between the past and the present?

I said the national was created to advance a particular political point of view. Saying that the daily express supports leaving the EU in 2019 doesn't invalidate my original point.

[GAD]

12 minutes ago, sparky88 said:

Nope.

These newspapers editorial stances have changed multiple times throughout their history.

How many of them have changed since the national was launched? As far as I can tell they have all been eurosceptic, conservative, anti immigration and anti independence for at least the past 25 years.

[sparky88]

7 minutes ago, GAD said:

How many of them have changed since the national was launched? As far as I can tell they have all been eurosceptic, conservative, anti immigration and anti independence for at least the past 25 years.

All? The only 3 daily newspapers that fit those criteria, I believe, are the daily mail, the express and the telegraph.

The record and the sun in only 4 years have supported multiple parties. The Record in particular now supports a party that argues the exact opposite of all 4 of those policy positions

Edited May 17, 2019 by sparky88

[Tibbermoresaint]

58 minutes ago, sparky88 said:

A unionist supporter would just point to The National as evidence of bias, the only newspaper created in the UK to cater for a specific political point of view. 

That's part of being a supporter of a political party I guess.

 

 

11 minutes ago, sparky88 said:

I said the national was created to advance a particular political point of view. Saying that the daily express supports leaving the EU in 2019 doesn't invalidate my original point.

You're lying now. You said that the National was the only newspaper created in the UK to cater for a specific political point of view. Which is bollocks.