ICTChris Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Angela Merkels weird hand thing looks a lot like the Illuminati eye sign doesn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LinkinFighter Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 I've been hearing about a young Austrian man who has recently got involved in the German political scene, the feeling is he'll go far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarkston5 Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Well no: you stated that every German government has attempted to dominate the continent. That work doesn't begin until the First World War, decades after the creation of a German state. It also says absolutely nothing about the German state(s) after 1945, whose successive administrations have not, by any credible historian, aimed to dominate Europe. Better luck next time. I did mention 1917 and I would have thought it was implicit that I was talking about the last 100 years. As for your following statement, by "credible" you mean historians that match your opinions. You set yourself up as an intellectual heavyweight and a lot of your posts contain a narrow mindedness which refuses to budge from your concrete set opinions. You come across as a deluded and tedious individual with a penchant for childish arrogance. You need luck and lots of it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagfox Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 I welcome our Soviet overlords. The collapse of the first Soviet Union led to a drop in the wages and conditions for the working classes in the west. Also led to the rise of neo liberal globalisation, imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zetterlund Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 The fall of the rouble is much more to do with oil than any sanctions, which are probably as damaging to many of Russia's European trading partners as they are to Russia. There is growing discontent among political opposition in Germany and the Baltic states etc about the prioritising of the US agenda over the wellbeing of their own economies. Meanwhile, US Congress are pushing through bill after bill in preparation for war, including hilarious declarations that Russia is an imminent nuclear threat to America. They have also passed provisions for the privatisation and corporate takeover of Ukraine's oil & gas industries aswell as other infrastructure - I'm sure everyone else is as shocked by this unexpected development as I am. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 The fall of the rouble is much more to do with oil than any sanctions, which are probably as damaging to many of Russia's European trading partners as they are to Russia. Which is why Russia's economy might look great on the surface but is built on very delicate foundations. For all your flagwaving on the previous page about Putin creating a stable economy isn't strictly accurate. He might be doing a better job than Yeltsin but the economy is still incredibly vulnerable and underdeveloped in many sectors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fotbawmad Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Well no: you stated that every German government has attempted to dominate the continent. That work doesn't begin until the First World War, decades after the creation of a German state. It also says absolutely nothing about the German state(s) after 1945, whose successive administrations have not, by any credible historian, aimed to dominate Europe. Better luck next time. Then why is Germany more fanatical about the EU than any other nation? Anything to do with the fact they're the ones who benefit most from the status quo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zetterlund Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Which is why Russia's economy might look great on the surface but is built on very delicate foundations. For all your flagwaving on the previous page about Putin creating a stable economy isn't strictly accurate. He might be doing a better job than Yeltsin but the economy is still incredibly vulnerable and underdeveloped in many sectors. The comment about the economy was clearly meant in the context of what had gone before it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagfox Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Russians sunbathe standing up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 It'll be interesting to see which economy crashes first. Russias or the UKs. My money is on the UK. Well, the UK economy will have to collapse pretty quickly as the Russian economy is currently on the verge of very serious problems. It could get significantly worse than it is already for Russia. They are effectively taking the Norman Lamont approach to shoring up the currency but are doing so from a far more vulnerable position than the British economy was at that time. Russians currently owe over $600bn, much of it from government backed banks and firms. If they start defaulting it'll be much harder for any Russian firms to obtain credit meaning that the reforms that need to happen to make the Russian economy more competitive (diversifying to remove the dependence on oil) will be harder to enact. You also have to ask if there is any political will to carry out reform - the current regime certainly haven't shown that they are in any way interested in reform and there isn't really any organised opposition to speak of. The political and military reaction to the crisis is also unpredictable. No-one really knows what the Kremlin will do in response and there's the potential that there could be an escalation in Ukraine and moves towards a siege economy. How the Russian population will react to this, having seen reasonable rises in living standards during the Putin years, is another unknown. Will people accept reduced living standards? If Russia starts to send more troops to a conflict in Ukraine will people accept greater casualties? During the First Chechen War soliders mothers were a prominent political force in opposition to the governmetn and the conflict, if more Russian soldiers lose their lives in Ukraine will this re-emerge? ETA - One of the few instances of protests against Putin and the current government was around five years ago when the economic downturn saw an impact to manufacturing industries - http://www.theguardian.com/world/2009/jun/07/russia-putin-policies-protests. If there is another sustained downturn could we see more protests like the above? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 I can see another Communist revolt building up in Russia to be honest. Currently the communist party of the Russian Federation are the 2nd largest party in Russia. It would be natural for them to turn towards that party as the alternative if they're left feeling let down and disillusioned under the current regime. May sound far fetched, but history does have a tendency to repeat. If they do go down that route, then it would be interesting to see how a more modern form of Communism takes shape. As the class struggle continues to build within the UK, a radical left movement will be inevitable. How far left the UK shifts will be equally as interesting. The Communists could win some support as well as the far-right - there's actualy the potential for overlap among these groups, however strange that may seem. Russian politics is so dominated by United Russia and Putin means that it's difficult to predict what would happen if there was a collapse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 Vice Chair of the Central Bank Sergei Shvetsov: "Situation is critical. What is happening is a nightmare" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 It'll be interesting to see which economy crashes first. Russias or the UKs. My money is on the UK. Show your working below: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crùbag Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 Heard a piece on our ane Pravda/ BBC yesterday telling of Russia's financial woes. Then I saw this bit on Wings taken from the Sun. The Sun must really think its readers are thick. http://wingsoverscotland.com/it-could-be-worse/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reynard Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 I welcome our Soviet overlords. The collapse of the first Soviet Union led to a drop in the wages and conditions for the working classes in the west. Also led to the rise of neo liberal globalisation, imo. Especially in Germany which had to cope with the massive influx of backward Trabant driving poor folk who had been totally oppressed during their stint under the commies. The vast bulk of those people have seen a massive increase in their living standards since. Not too many buckled commie fucks left to yearn for the old days of being shot for trying to escape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTJohnboy Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 Has anybody asked Ruth for a picture of her tits yet? Martina Navratalova. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 Especially in Germany which had to cope with the massive influx of backward Trabant driving poor folk who had been totally oppressed during their stint under the commies. The vast bulk of those people have seen a massive increase in their living standards since. Not too many buckled commie fucks left to yearn for the old days of being shot for trying to escape. Pensions have doubled in Crimea apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_B Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 It'll be interesting to see which economy crashes first. Russias or the UKs. My money is on the UK. It's brilliant that this attracted a serious response Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaikuHibee Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 Not too many buckled commie fucks left to yearn for the old days Except those that vote? It's as if you're talking shite, a mountain of shite. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-30342441 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crùbag Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 Especially in Germany which had to cope with the massive influx of backward Trabant driving poor folk who had been totally oppressed during their stint under the commies. The vast bulk of those people have seen a massive increase in their living standards since. Not too many buckled commie fucks left to yearn for the old days of being shot for trying to escape. You don't know what you're talking you fckn imbecile. Go there and speak to folk. Post reported. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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