effeffsee_the2nd Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 Yep, I also prefer a winter break while starting earlier in the summer. My dream scenario would be a start in early / mid July, with a shorter 16 team league season. That said, I think both winter break and spring-autumn scenarios are progress compared to the current schedule. Lower leagues with worse stadiums would just have to finish a bit earlier to be safe, I guess. They can play a few more mid-week games earlier in the season, and / or play through a few FIFA dates. Apart from ireland i think all the countries who run a summer program have shorter leagues and one cup. AFAIK no summer football country has such a long drawn out season as us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nakamura Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 Apart from ireland i think all the countries who run a summer program have shorter leagues and one cup. AFAIK no summer football country has such a long drawn out season as us I couldn't say about most, as I don't know. Norway has a short season. MLS on the other hand has a busy schedule in their summer season, 34 regular season games in 8 months and a bit, then 6 rounds of playoffs, so up to 40 league games depending on how your team performs. One cup with up to 5 games, continental competition with up to 10 games (5 MLS teams take part in that each year). Plus they have an all star weekend, so that's an extra game for main players. Plus they have various friendly cups with Euro teams in the middle of the season for money reasons. So 40 plus dates during the season is normal, it could be close to 60 in-season dates in theory, of course that never happens. Personally I'd love the season to be shorter, although teams will never agree on that, since they can rarely agree on even much smaller things. Anyway, I think it's doable. I think you guys are focused on flaws, when nothing is flawless. Rather, I think the argument should be of how we get rid of all these canceled games, that's no good to anyone. Would there be bad dates and canceled games under some summer structure? Ok, but fewer. Would the season have to start or end while it's still cold? Probably, but there would be less of these bad dates. So that's progress. Progress, not perfection. I just don't see a good reason to have the current schedule, some of these games have to move to summer. If we agree on that, then the rest is just cosmetics, I think. Should we start in early / mid July and have a winter break, should we start at some point in winter and finish in November. I think this doesn't matter so much, it's much preferable either way over the current structure, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 MLS isn't in UEFA. If you lift our program into a calendar year, adhering to UEFA & FIFA rules, dates, finals etc. it runs mid-January to mid-December. That would be totally pointless. Even judged on its own merits in isolation you hardly avoid any of the winter, but succeed in missing the festive period. Other nations run Mar-Nov as they play 30 or fewer league games and just one cup. Eire haven't internationalists, thus play through breaks and finals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nakamura Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 MLS does play through less important FIFA dates, which I think isn't too bad. But I don't think it's necessary, just condense games a little bit in spring-summer period. In reality, they already condense schedule each year, due to cancellations and flooded pitches, they are just doing it impromptu, no good for anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scary Bear Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 Aye so just to remind everyone. If we had our season played over the summer , the cup final would have likely been this weekend The Norwegians seem to start their cup tournament in March and finish it in November. Could we accommodate that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scary Bear Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 MLS isn't in UEFA. If you lift our program into a calendar year, adhering to UEFA & FIFA rules, dates, finals etc. it runs mid-January to mid-December. That would be totally pointless. Even judged on its own merits in isolation you hardly avoid any of the winter, but succeed in missing the festive period. Other nations run Mar-Nov as they play 30 or fewer league games and just one cup. Eire haven't internationalists, thus play through breaks and finals. Let's do that then - March to November. I'd miss the Xmas games but I'd get over it and probably have more fun watching English games in the pub. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
effeffsee_the2nd Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 The Norwegians seem to start their cup tournament in March and finish it in November. Could we accommodate that? No we couldnt . Norway has a 16 team league and one cup. Our football season is 10 months long. So no you cant play march to october Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpoonTon Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 Let's do that then - March to November. I'd miss the Xmas games but I'd get over it and probably have more fun watching English games in the pub. Saturdays in winter would be rather bleak without the football to go to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scary Bear Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 No we couldnt . Norway has a 16 team league and one cup. Our football season is 10 months long. So no you cant play march to october You could always change to a 16 team league and Scottish Cup only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Koop Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 Saturdays in winter would be rather bleak without the football to go to. Shirley someone with an ounce of nous and an eye on making a few bob could set up a winter indoor sevens league to keep us distracted? Oops. Scottish fitba 'thorties we're talking about. My mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deuhie Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 Summer Football, sounds good to me, bring it on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdTheDuck Posted February 28, 2018 Author Share Posted February 28, 2018 Well This Beast from the East is the proof we need that Summer Football is not just desirable, it's absolutely imperative ... except I have a feeling that our summer season would have started by now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted March 2, 2018 Share Posted March 2, 2018 On 2/28/2018 at 21:37, EdTheDuck said: Well This Beast from the East is the proof we need that Summer Football is not just desirable, it's absolutely imperative ... except I have a feeling that our summer season would have started by now... No it isn't. We had all of 0 games called off last season. In fact I think it's been about 8 years since we've had one called off due to the winter weather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted March 2, 2018 Share Posted March 2, 2018 ^^^ you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdTheDuck Posted March 2, 2018 Author Share Posted March 2, 2018 5 hours ago, DA Baracus said: No it isn't. We had all of 0 games called off last season. In fact I think it's been about 8 years since we've had one called off due to the winter weather. Whoosh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted March 2, 2018 Share Posted March 2, 2018 3 hours ago, virginton said: ^^^ you 1 hour ago, EdTheDuck said: Whoosh Haha whoops! Brain broke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merkie84 Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 On 07/12/2015 at 19:43, HibeeJibee said: MLS isn't in UEFA. If you lift our program into a calendar year, adhering to UEFA & FIFA rules, dates, finals etc. it runs mid-January to mid-December. That would be totally pointless. Even judged on its own merits in isolation you hardly avoid any of the winter, but succeed in missing the festive period. Other nations run Mar-Nov as they play 30 or fewer league games and just one cup. Eire haven't internationalists, thus play through breaks and finals. Exactly this. The Summer v Winter argument is totally moot. We already play summer football. Eiefa have already decided this is when outback teams start their European campaigns. Aberdeen started durin the first week of Wimbledon. Rangers were a week or so before that. Some of our clubs now have competitive fixture in all 12 months of the year. The debate is how to accommodate all the fixtures. Personally I wouldn't keep the cups short and scheduled as they are at the moment. Have a longer break over winter am doing have the league start earlier to give our clubs some competitive games over summer. Alternatively, don't give our European qualifiers a bye throughout the group stages of the league cup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig fae the Vale Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 The Forth and Endrick League saw all 5 of it's round 1 fixtures cancelled last weekend in a summer season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andytheblacksmith05 Posted April 21, 2018 Share Posted April 21, 2018 Used to think if you played in summer it was for more Diddy leagues but we could hardly classify spfl as a top league. Changed my mind about summer football and think it's good idea to start about March time that way more people will attend games in better weather plus being mid way in a season will have teams far more ready for European qualifiers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scary Bear Posted April 21, 2018 Share Posted April 21, 2018 Used to think if you played in summer it was for more Diddy leagues but we could hardly classify spfl as a top league. Changed my mind about summer football and think it's good idea to start about March time that way more people will attend games in better weather plus being mid way in a season will have teams far more ready for European qualifiers We are definitely diddy enough for summer football. The problem then would be, how do you make life bearable in Scotland in winter? Do we all just sit in pubs watching English football? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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