Tubbs Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 And to think that any time the challenges associated with oil were mentioned there was a flurry of sarcasm about it running out or being a detriment. Real life events have articulated what was being outlined. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunnyday Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Any socialists calling for tax cuts for the evil oil companies operating in the north sea? The SNP are. Two faced when expedient for the SNP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strichener Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Any socialists calling for tax cuts for the evil oil companies operating in the north sea? The SNP are. I found it rather funny that Oil & Gas UK were calling for the abolition of the Supplementary Charge. A tax that is payable on profits. If things are a bad as they are saying then surely 32% of 0 = 0% of 0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reynard Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 I found it rather funny that Oil & Gas UK were calling for the abolition of the Supplementary Charge. A tax that is payable on profits. If things are a bad as they are saying then surely 32% of 0 = 0% of 0. I found it rather funny that a binch of "socialists" realise that cutting tax actually allows business to increase investment and therefore the tax yield down the line. But ONLY for one sector of the economy. Do you think the "socialist" SNP are operating huge double standards or anything like that? Or are you just going to brainlessly join in the calls for tax cuts even though its against all you stand for ideologically? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reynard Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 Salmond - £113-£150 a barrel Reality - $46.59 a barrel Has ANY nationalist managed to work out what sort of mess this would have left an independent Scotland in? Maybe the fantastic BfS has run the numbers? Or the loopy Rev down in Somerset? No? Nothing? Silencccccce!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 The oil was an extra, so no mess. You can tell them that until you're blue in the face, they won't take any notice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reynard Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 You can tell them that until you're blue in the face, they won't take any notice. Oil, according to the Scottish governments own GERS figures is over 11% of the Scottish economy. Can you explain to us in great detail why this is being described as "extra". Thanks. And can you pony up some numbers run through the same economic model Salmond was using prior to the referendum to show just exactly what low oil prices will do to the scottish economy? Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reynard Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 The oil was an extra, so no mess. The same applies to you. Oil is over 11% of the Scottish economy. Explain in great detail why this is described as "extra". Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strichener Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 I found it rather funny that a binch of "socialists" realise that cutting tax actually allows business to increase investment and therefore the tax yield down the line. But ONLY for one sector of the economy. Do you think the "socialist" SNP are operating huge double standards or anything like that? Or are you just going to brainlessly join in the calls for tax cuts even though its against all you stand for ideologically? This has no relevance to the post you responded to. Profit based tax = tax paid on profits. If the industry is in such a bad way with the current oil price, surely there will be no profit to tax? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wirez Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 Would we have been independent at this time if it was a yes vote? No. That would have been Spring 2016. Until we know the prices at that time, then this thread is pointless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reynard Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 This has no relevance to the post you responded to. Profit based tax = tax paid on profits. If the industry is in such a bad way with the current oil price, surely there will be no profit to tax? And what relevance has yours got? Its pretty basic stuff that you get taxed on profit. I was just wondering why supposed socialists are calling for tax breaks etc for a particular industry? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reynard Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 Would we have been independent at this time if it was a yes vote? No. That would have been Spring 2016. Until we know the prices at that time, then this thread is pointless The one year projection is currently $52 a barrel. The old Swinney tactic. We dont have to worry about it because we have the protection of the utterly huge UK economy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wirez Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 The one year projection is currently $52 a barrel. The old Swinney tactic. We dont have to worry about it because we have the protection of the utterly bankrupt UK economy FTFY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strichener Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 And what relevance has yours got? Its pretty basic stuff that you get taxed on profit. I was just wondering why supposed socialists are calling for tax breaks etc for a particular industry? I am pretty sure that they wanted to cut taxes for all companies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reynard Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 I am pretty sure that they wanted to cut taxes for all companies. I don't hear them pressing the government on this. I only hear them bitch whining about the oil and gas sector. Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_B Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 I am pretty sure that they wanted to cut taxes for all companies. Who did? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reynard Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 Who did? THe SNP apparently. Havent heard a single thing from them pressing the government for this all the same. I reckon its just a figment of Strickens fevered imagination. Still waiting for Parp and Wizbit to explain how 11% of the Scottish economy is a "bonus". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strichener Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 Who did? You went on about it often enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_B Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 You went on about it often enough. I thought you said Socialists. The SNP are a centre right party. They are not Socialists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUFC90 Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 THe SNP apparently. Havent heard a single thing from them pressing the government for this all the same. I reckon its just a figment of Strickens fevered imagination. Still waiting for Parp and Wizbit to explain how 11% of the Scottish economy is a "bonus". Compared to the UK economy oil IS a bonus. Even with no oil whatsoever we are still level with the shitey UK economy and their shitey current account deficit would almost double without us. The UK have proved over the last 40 years that they cannot be trusted to steward our natural resources or spend our money properly on things that don't just benefit London. I'll be expecting to hear from your bigoted brain, on this thread, in March 2016. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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