Ira Gaines Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 Banterous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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itzdrk Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 dgcr2.jpeg She knows who to vote for then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lex Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 She was a terrible leader and largely despised amongst her own party. She was the worst of all better together campaigners over the past couple of years and she had to go. I have never and will never vote Labour, but they need to give someone like Hugh Henry this job. He's a proper heavy weight politician and he will give wee shouty boots a run for her money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colkitto Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 She was a terrible leader and largely despised amongst her own party. She was the worst of all better together campaigners over the past couple of years and she had to go. I have never and will never vote Labour, but they need to give someone like Hugh Henry this job. He's a proper heavy weight politician and he will give wee shouty boots a run for her money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagfox Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 When will the STUC announce the new leader? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scary Bear Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 Lamont complains that Scottish Labour is being run as a branch office in London. Do you honestly think that parachuting in some Blairite dinosaur from Westminster is really the image you want folk to see. If they do parachute Murphy in it'll be like shooting fish in a barrel for the other parties. They can quite rightly play the London Labour card again. However, Murphy is a more effective politician than Lamont, so it would probably give them stronger leadership. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orlandoblue Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 Here's what she said about the branch office etc And just as the SNP must embrace that devolution is the settled will of the Scottish people, the Labour Party must recognise that the Scottish party has to be autonomous and not just a branch office of a party based in London. Scotland has chosen to remain in partnership with our neighbours in the UK. But Scotland is distinct and colleagues must recognise that" Full context of it slightly different than the snippets being reported. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strichener Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 Here's what she said about the branch office etc And just as the SNP must embrace that devolution is the settled will of the Scottish people, the Labour Party must recognise that the Scottish party has to be autonomous and not just a branch office of a party based in London. Scotland has chosen to remain in partnership with our neighbours in the UK. But Scotland is distinct and colleagues must recognise that" Full context of it slightly different than the snippets being reported. Not really. For once in her political career she has openly confirmed what most scots already know. All Scottish branches of national political parties are subservient to London. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 This would be the same "settled will" which has been revised twice since 1999, and which 45% of the electorate just rejected in a referendum? Nah, nice try, but I'm afraid your "settled will" pish is fooling absolutely no-one. We'll be getting on with destroying the last organised bastions of British nationalism like Scottish Labour - once that's complete and the current generation of old biddies die off, another vote will be held. And another, and another, until we win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orlandoblue Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 I'm interested in the repeated referendum caper. Why is it that there can be seemingly infinite votes as long as it is a no vote but as soon as it is a yes that would be it finished ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strichener Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 I'm interested in the repeated referendum caper. Why is it that there can be seemingly infinite votes as long as it is a no vote but as soon as it is a yes that would be it finished ? Progression? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamamafegan Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 I'm interested in the repeated referendum caper. Why is it that there can be seemingly infinite votes as long as it is a no vote but as soon as it is a yes that would be it finished ? As the months go by the no voting Scottish people will slowly but surely realise we're being shafted. Everyday more and more people are wishing they voted yes -nobody is going to regret the yes vote they made last time. And once we achieve our independence, nobody will want to return to that pish once they realise we're better off on our own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarkston5 Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 This would be the same "settled will" which has been revised twice since 1999, and which 45% of the electorate just rejected in a referendum? Nah, nice try, but I'm afraid your "settled will" pish is fooling absolutely no-one. We'll be getting on with destroying the last organised bastions of British nationalism like Scottish Labour - once that's complete and the current generation of old biddies die off, another vote will be held. And another, and another, until we win. The Edinburgh agreement will sort it out for at least 2-3 generations and how do you know that those older voters were always against independence? You really are a clown of a laddie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarkston5 Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 As the months go by the no voting Scottish people will slowly but surely realise we're being shafted. Everyday more and more people are wishing they voted yes -nobody is going to regret the yes vote they made last time. And once we achieve our independence, nobody will want to return to that pish once they realise we're better off on our own. If your judgement is versed on the expert advice you've taken from Confi, you must be right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 I'm interested in the repeated referendum caper. Why is it that there can be seemingly infinite votes as long as it is a no vote but as soon as it is a yes that would be it finished ? Because the referendum choice is between change and the status quo. So... voting for more of the same leaves the door entirely open to the same referendum process being repeated in the future - opting for a decisive constitutional break does not. That's called democracy, champ. Of course a mechanism would exist for iScotland to cravenly vote to rejoin rUK, if you felt particularly bitter about the outcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 The Edinburgh agreement will sort it out for at least 2-3 generations and how do you know that those older voters were always against independence? You really are a clown of a laddie Bless, that's what the Britnats said about the initial devolution settlement. How's that working out for you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reynard Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 Labour are a fucking shambles. Hopefully Miliband is in the middle of a crash and burn here too. Blair knifing him and Lamont knifing him too. Save Beaker. And we can all enjoy a Tory government instead of more left wing economic holocausts as per normal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarkston5 Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 Bless, that's what the Britnats said about the initial devolution settlement. How's that working out for you? Fine. The SNP continue to ignore the majority and have a leader lacking in charisma. Just peachy actually Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reynard Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 Bless, that's what the Britnats said about the initial devolution settlement. How's that working out for you? I voted against it because it was a pile of steaming Labour shit and was only going to stoke up the nat clown collective. Which it has done. Yet another prediction I got spectacularly right. That debate was a long time ago. Maybe your dad was still around the place? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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