welshbairn Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 (edited) More background. The judge who released them on bail said the prosecution had no evidence linking the crew with the cocaine. https://simpleflying.com/canadian-crew-dominican-republic-jail/ https://simpleflying.com/dominican-republic-prosecutors-appeal-bail-for-held-canadian-crew/ Edited June 14, 2022 by welshbairn 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loonytoons Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 Am I missing something here? The authorities have arrested the people who found and reported the drugs. And two of the five of them are not white.Not only that but one of the two non-whites was allowed to do his Canadian citizenship from The Dominican Republic so he could get consulate help.This is not anything to do with race. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 HB 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbornbairn Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 I don’t think this is going the way HB intended. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Loonytoons said: Not only that but one of the two non-whites was allowed to do his Canadian citizenship from The Dominican Republic so he could get consulate help. This is not anything to do with race. They had 200 kilos of cocaine on the plane and 5 passengers. If five Dominican guys get caught with that in Toronto do you think the Canadian press and government are going to be fine with them being sent back to DR to await trial? It's a huge double standard. The story is bizarre because the sub headline says bag of cocaine which would make most readers think it's only a few grams and the real value is buried half down the story and mentioned casually. The press should be asking why the Canadian government are giving so much support to a dodgy airline with one plane and a handful of passengers that is an obvious drug dealing front. Edited June 14, 2022 by Detournement 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 5 minutes ago, Detournement said: They had 200 kilos of cocaine on the plane and 5 passengers. If five Dominican guys get caught with that in Toronto do you think the Canadian press and government are going to be fine with them being sent back to DR to await trial? It's a huge double standard. The story is bizarre because the sub headline says bag of cocaine which would make most readers think it's only a few grams and the real value is buried half down the story and mentioned casually. The press should be asking why the Canadian government are giving so much support to a dodgy airline with one plane and a handful of passengers that is an obvious drug dealing front. It was the crew who reported the cocaine. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eednud Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 5 minutes ago, Detournement said: no passengers Not what Canadian media reported https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/canadian-airline-worker-detained-in-the-dominican-republic-speaks-out-about-unsanitary-conditions-in-jail-1.592895 https://calgary.ctvnews.ca/stranded-and-accused-calgary-photographer-caught-up-in-drug-seizure-tries-to-come-home-1.5882718 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 Just now, welshbairn said: It was the crew who reported the cocaine. By the looks of the Guardian story maintenance engineer found it and he wasn't in on it. After that they can't exactly take off because he'll grass them in back in Canada. Given that he has cost someone $200 million the outlook for him isn't looking great in or out of prison. But we also don't know if they reported it shortly before they would have been caught anyway. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 2 minutes ago, Detournement said: By the looks of the Guardian story maintenance engineer found it and he wasn't in on it. After that they can't exactly take off because he'll grass them in back in Canada. Given that he has cost someone $200 million the outlook for him isn't looking great in or out of prison. But we also don't know if they reported it shortly before they would have been caught anyway. Are you trying to develop a script for Death in Paradise? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loonytoons Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 They had 200 kilos of cocaine on the plane and 5 passengers. If five Dominican guys get caught with that in Toronto do you think the Canadian press and government are going to be fine with them being sent back to DR to await trial? It's a huge double standard. The story is bizarre because the sub headline says bag of cocaine which would make most readers think it's only a few grams and the real value is buried half down the story and mentioned casually. The press should be asking why the Canadian government are giving so much support to a dodgy airline with one plane and a handful of passengers that is an obvious drug dealing front. You were pushing a "white" agenda in the narrative. I was pointing out that it doesn't come across that way at all. If there was, they'd have dumped the guy looking for citizenship.It looks like Canada are trying to get these guys back home until any charges are brought against them.I might be wrong but I suspect not all, if any, of the crew are in on it. The pilot has a dodgy background however. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Loonytoons said: You were pushing a "white" agenda in the narrative. I was pointing out that it doesn't come across that way at all. If there was, they'd have dumped the guy looking for citizenship. It looks like Canada are trying to get these guys back home until any charges are brought against them. I might be wrong but I suspect not all, if any, of the crew are in on it. The pilot has a dodgy background however. It was the Captain who reported the find to the authorities and the bag was shoved in a position where it could interfere with the flight controls. Edited June 14, 2022 by welshbairn 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loonytoons Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 It was the Captain who reported the find to the authorities and the bag was shoved in a position where it could interfere with the flight controls.Fair do's. He's still got a dodgy background though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 3 minutes ago, Loonytoons said: You were pushing a "white" agenda in the narrative. I was pointing out that it doesn't come across that way at all. If there was, they'd have dumped the guy looking for citizenship. It looks like Canada are trying to get these guys back home until any charges are brought against them. I might be wrong but I suspect not all, if any, of the crew are in on it. The pilot has a dodgy background however. The engineer guy definitely isn't in on it. It actually seems like they have tried to save money by bringing in a cheap immigrant engineer who worked for buttons versus the cost of a maintenance engineer who is also up for smuggling 8 figures worth of gear. Penny pinching always catches up with you in the end. The woman probably isn't involved either but in almost any country in the world if you are one of 11 people on a plane with 200 kilos you are going to spend some time inside and will be very fortunate to get out on bail before you have been cleared of any wrongdoing. The entire vibe from the Canadian media is that there citizens shouldn't even be under house arrest in DR which is straight up racism. As far as I can tell the Canadian media aren't too interested in how someone intended to get 200 kilos through the Canadian border or the owners of the very strange airline. We know that various American agencies have in the past brought drugs into the USA so it wouldn't be a huge shock if there is some sort of intelligence link here. The previous story on this thread about the mass shooting was proof there is some crazy stuff going on in Canada. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 11 minutes ago, welshbairn said: It was the Captain who reported the find to the authorities and the bag was shoved in a position where it could interfere with the flight controls. The engineer found it, if the captain was in on it he would have limited options at that point. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loonytoons Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 The engineer guy definitely isn't in on it. It actually seems like they have tried to save money by bringing in a cheap immigrant engineer who worked for buttons versus the cost of a maintenance engineer who is also up for smuggling 8 figures worth of gear. Penny pinching always catches up with you in the end. The woman probably isn't involved either but in almost any country in the world if you are one of 11 people on a plane with 200 kilos you are going to spend some time inside and will be very fortunate to get out on bail before you have been cleared of any wrongdoing. The entire vibe from the Canadian media is that there citizens shouldn't even be under house arrest in DR which is straight up racism. As far as I can tell the Canadian media aren't too interested in how someone intended to get 200 kilos through the Canadian border or the owners of the very strange airline. We know that various American agencies have in the past brought drugs into the USA so it wouldn't be a huge shock if there is some sort of intelligence link here. The previous story on this thread about the mass shooting was proof there is some crazy stuff going on in Canada. It's not racism. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 2 minutes ago, Detournement said: The engineer found it, if the captain was in on it he would have limited options at that point. Quote A Canadian airline worker who has been trapped in the Dominican Republic for two months after alerting authorities to narcotics found on his plane says he was subjected to unsafe and unsanitary conditions while spending nine days in jail. BK Dubey, a maintenance engineer for the Ontario-based charter operator Pivot Airlines, said he was doing his maintenance checks on aboard a Toronto-bound aircraft on the ground at Punta Cana International Airport on April 5 when he came across a suspicious bag inside the avionics bay. That suspicious package turned out to be 200 kilograms of cocaine. Dubey immediately reported the suspicious bag to the captain and likely averted an air disaster, because the bags were flammable and the weight would have been detrimental to the flight. "That's our normal duty in Canadian or international law. That's our duty to check the plane and report if you've found any suspicious thing," the 24-year airline industry veteran told CTV News while speaking from a secure location in the Dominican Republic. https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/canadian-airline-worker-detained-in-the-dominican-republic-speaks-out-about-unsanitary-conditions-in-jail-1.5928955 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 11 minutes ago, Detournement said: The engineer guy definitely isn't in on it. It actually seems like they have tried to save money by bringing in a cheap immigrant engineer who worked for buttons I doubt he'd need to be working for buttons with his experience. https://ca.linkedin.com/in/bkdubey?original_referer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2F 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 14 minutes ago, welshbairn said: I doubt he'd need to be working for buttons with his experience. https://ca.linkedin.com/in/bkdubey?original_referer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2F Buttons compared to a qualified engineer who is also a drug trafficker. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loonytoons Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 The engineer guy definitely isn't in on it. It actually seems like they have tried to save money by bringing in a cheap immigrant engineer who worked for buttons versus the cost of a maintenance engineer who is also up for smuggling 8 figures worth of gear. Penny pinching always catches up with you in the end. Your first paragraph might be deemed racist. Immigrant engineer = cheap labour. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 If we're inventing scenarios, I'd say the smugglers had a guy on ground maintenance or similar at Toronto as well as the Dominican Republic is the most likely. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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