~~~ Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 I wonder how many ex pats will come flooding back into the UK without any jobs lined up or homes to live in after they lose their EU citizenship status and the rights it grants them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTJohnboy Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 The European Economic Area (EEA) provides for the free movement of goods, persons, services and capital through three of four member states of the European Free Trade Association (EFTA) (Iceland,Liechtenstein and Norway),[4] and 27 of 28 member states of the European Union (EU), with Croatiaprovisionally applying the agreement pending its ratification by all EEA countries.[2][5] It was established on 1 January 1994 following an agreement between the member states and the European Community, which later became the EU.[4] It allows EFTA states which join to participate in the EU's internal market without being members of the EU. They adopt almost all EU legislation related to the single market, except laws on agriculture and fisheries. However, they also contribute to and influence the formation of new EEA relevant policies and legislation at an early stage as part of a formal decision-shaping process.[6] One EFTA member, Switzerland, has not joined the EEA but has a series of bilateral agreements, including a free trade agreement, with the EU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reynard Posted November 3, 2014 Author Share Posted November 3, 2014 I wonder how many ex pats will come flooding back into the UK without any jobs lined up or homes to live in after they lose their EU citizenship status and the rights it grants them That would just have been the Scottish ones in the event of a Yes vote in September? I thought that was just scaremongering as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~ Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 That would just have been the Scottish ones in the event of a Yes vote in September? I thought that was just scaremongering as well. I can see you didn't answer my question but attempted to deflect it. How embarrassing for you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SodjesSixteenIncher Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 Wow. Even if you somehow counted 'the rest of the world' as a single market (which absolutely nobody would take seriously) Europe would still be our biggest market. Export of services is not the full measure of a marketplace. I really don't believe you're unable to understand this. 60% of trade debits and 50% of credits - our biggest market by a mile. Daniel Hannan's (and by proxy of Twitter, your) tear stained insistence otherwise is fully demonstrative of Euroscepticism: seething ideology first; facts second. Deal with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reynard Posted November 3, 2014 Author Share Posted November 3, 2014 I can see you didn't answer my question but attempted to deflect it. How embarrassing for you Well, if the UK DID actually have a referendum and did vote to leave then it would leave these people without a legal right to be there unless new deals were signed by the UK and the individual countries. This will no doubt be the same for any EU citizen still in the country if the UK came out. So hopefully this answers your question. It isn't going to happen anyway as we wouldn't vote to come out of course. Its as big a stick on win as the Scottish secession one going tits up for the yes lot was. But it was a very thoughtful question. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reynard Posted November 3, 2014 Author Share Posted November 3, 2014 Wow. Even if you somehow counted 'the rest of the world' as a single market (which absolutely nobody would take seriously) Europe would still be our biggest market. Export of services is not the full measure of a marketplace. I really don't believe you're unable to understand this. 60% of trade debits and 50% of credits - our biggest market by a mile. Daniel Hannan's (and by proxy of Twitter, your) tear stained insistence otherwise is fully demonstrative of Euroscepticism: seething ideology first; facts second. Deal with it. Europhiles certainly trotted it out often enough. But they don't seem to like hearing about it when its no longer the case. BTW did you ever get round to backing up your ludicrous claim about people who wanted to elave the EU looking to cut trading ties? Or was it "heat of the moment" spangleness? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~ Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 Well, if the UK DID actually have a referendum and did vote to leave then it would leave these people without a legal right to be there unless new deals were signed by the UK and the individual countries. This will no doubt be the same for any EU citizen still in the country if the UK came out. So hopefully this answers your question. It isn't going to happen anyway as we wouldn't vote to come out of course. Its as big a stick on win as the Scottish secession one going tits up for the yes lot was. But it was a very thoughtful question. Thanks. That's a lot of word without answering the questions. Congratulations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SodjesSixteenIncher Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 Europhiles certainly trotted it out often enough. But they don't seem to like hearing about it when its no longer the case. BTW did you ever get round to backing up your ludicrous claim about people who wanted to elave the EU looking to cut trading ties? Or was it "heat of the moment" spangleness? It's still the case that 'rest of the world' isn't a single market but even if it was, wouldn't be our biggest trading partner. Once you accept this basic fact, we'll talk about why you want to be isolated from our biggest market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reynard Posted November 3, 2014 Author Share Posted November 3, 2014 Iceland's foreign minister announced today they will formally withdraw their membership application to the EU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 Iceland's foreign minister announced today they will formally withdraw their membership application to the EU. So who is our biggest trading partner,Iceland?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammyton Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 So now we know we can liar to Reynard's list. The man has no credabilty..he is now on ignore. No point reading his posts. Other than point and laugh he offers nothing. Euro will last longer than him, the European union will last longer and Europe as the biggest traiding partner will last longer. Reynard the all time loser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 Its not anymore. The rest of the world now is. "The rest of the world" isn't a single market champ - hence why it doesn't even appear as such on the actual ONS figures - which you've failed to provide, yet have still been utterly routed in any case. This has gone extremely badly for you - I can only presume that you'll be slithering off to Twitter again for the foreseeable future. Goodbye our sweet prince of fail. x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Reynard Posted November 4, 2014 Author Share Posted November 4, 2014 So who is our biggest trading partner,Iceland?? No, its the rest of the world. The EU market is shrinking constantly for the UK as the ONS figures released last week show clearly. Not only is this not a recent development, it has become a trend. The EU is dying on its arse thanks to decades of socialist fail and over regulation by unelected commissioners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the jambo-rocker Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 Rest of the world Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reynard Posted November 4, 2014 Author Share Posted November 4, 2014 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/11206621/EU-threatens-to-fine-Britain-70-million-a-month.html The EU (the UKs shrinking trade partner) is threatening to fine us 2.3million sheets a day as it attempts to grab money from our booming economy while it struggles away and scrambles for relevance as a trading bloc. In fact recent figures show that what was once our largest trading bloc has now been usurped by the rest of the world. Unlucky. Osborne should tell them to f**k off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarkston5 Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/11206621/EU-threatens-to-fine-Britain-70-million-a-month.html The EU (the UKs shrinking trade partner) is threatening to fine us 2.3million sheets a day as it attempts to grab money from our booming economy while it struggles away and scrambles for relevance as a trading bloc. In fact recent figures show that what was once our largest trading bloc has now been usurped by the rest of the world. Unlucky. Osborne should tell them to f**k off. He should but you know he won't. Germany's goal in WW2 was to control Europe and they tried that using imperialism. That didn't work so now they've done it using a benevolent and complete takeover of the banks and controlling debt. Angela Merkel threatens us with explusion and we roll over. I think we'd be far better off out of it and then we could control our borders as well as make our own way without the federal republic of Germany Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SodjesSixteenIncher Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 The ONS figures don't show Europe to be a shrinking trade partner That Telegraph article doesn't show Europe to be a shrinking trade partner. This does though: https://twitter.com/DanHannanMEP/status/528146681049538560 Dat pie chart. What an information age we live in. He should but you know he won't. Germany's goal in WW2 was to control Europe and they tried that using imperialism. That didn't work so now they've done it using a benevolent and complete takeover of the banks and controlling debt. Angela Merkel threatens us with explusion and we roll over. I think we'd be far better off out of it and then we could control our borders as well as make our own way without the federal republic of Germany Dear lord. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarkston5 Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 The ONS figures don't show Europe to be a shrinking trade partner That Telegraph article doesn't show Europe to be a shrinking trade partner. This does though: https://twitter.com/DanHannanMEP/status/528146681049538560 Dat pie chart. What an information age we live in. Dear lord. What do you disagree with? Germany's position of absolute power in Europe? You think we have a say in anything that goes on? If you're laughing at that, you're a clown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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