Elixir Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 Where is it you are an astrophysicist? And very very very specifically what allows you to determine that the likes of Bill Gray and Richard Lindzen aren't real scientists. But of course.,.. you are? Very specifically: the collective concord among 95% of the scientific fraternity. I never called anyone a fake or kiddy-on scientist either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elixir Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 When there's a consensus of opinion and there isn't. Oh dear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarkston5 Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 Oh dear. Disappointed. Surely your vast array of data can give you the answer to my wind turbines poser? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_B Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 Are they comparable? Why wouldn't they be? Why is he being held to higher standards of prediction than alarmist types, whose temperature modelling has been laughably wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_B Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 I never called anyone a fake or kiddy-on scientist either. You claimed that "not one" scientist worth their salt disagreed with the view that climate change is anthopocentric. Please explain exactly what qualifications you have to determine that ? Or of course you could run away as you have been for the last several pages, with mewling irrelevance, just to further humiliate yourself, assuming that's possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strichener Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 Why wouldn't they be? Why is he being held to higher standards of prediction than alarmist types, whose temperature modelling has been laughably wrong? For the reason stated in the rest of my post that you have not quoted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_B Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 For the reason stated in the rest of my post that you have not quoted. Which is what exactly? Are you claiming he isn't a world renowned expert on hurricanes? Is your issue that he isn't always correct? What do you make of the fact alarmists have been horrifically wrong with global temperature rise predictions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strichener Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 Which is what exactly? Are you claiming he isn't a world renowned expert on hurricanes? Is your issue that he isn't always correct? What do you make of the fact alarmists have been horrifically wrong with global temperature rise predictions? Read it No. He has been incorrect on more occasions than he has been correct. The number he is incorrect by, given the historical norm, has lead to questions being asked about the reliability of his opinion. I have no doubt that the climate is changing. It has done otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarkston5 Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 Read it No. He has been incorrect on more occasions than he has been correct. The number he is incorrect by, given the historical norm, has lead to questions being asked about the reliability of his opinion. I have no doubt that the climate is changing. It has done otherwise. The climate has changed all the way throughout history and my issue is that 2 thermonuclear devices were exploded along with all manner of incendiary explosive during a Global conflict in the 1940's. So why didn't the World come to an end with all the rises in temperature unless of course climate change scientists have obviated that from their findings? Also what about the recording of and the comparison of data? There are so many unanswered questions..... but you know that anyway.....I hope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 The climate has changed all the way throughout history and my issue is that 2 thermonuclear devices were exploded along with all manner of incendiary explosive during a Global conflict in the 1940's. So why didn't the World come to an end with all the rises in temperature unless of course climate change scientists have obviated that from their findings? Also what about the recording of and the comparison of data? There are so many unanswered questions..... but you know that anyway.....I hope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarkston5 Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 http://blogs.nature.com/climatefeedback/2008/05/postworld_war_ii_cooling_a_mir.html Be nice if you were familiar with this anomaly and all the other "strange" events like the 1945 temperature drop instead of putting up emoticons to reflect your lack of intelligence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_B Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 I have no doubt that the climate is changing. It has done otherwise. Who has said the climate isn't changing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_B Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 The number he is incorrect by, given the historical norm, has lead to questions being asked about the reliability of his opinion. You didn't answer my question :- "What do you make of the fact alarmists have been horrifically wrong with global temperature rise predictions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUFC90 Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 It was on the radio today that this has been the warmest year on record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strichener Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 You didn't answer my question :- "What do you make of the fact alarmists have been horrifically wrong with global temperature rise predictions? I think it is similar to the polls leading up to 18th September. They weren't exactly correct but pointed in the correct direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strichener Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 It was on the radio today that this has been the warmest year on record. Climate change, not global warming. Get with the program man! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_B Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 I think it is similar to the polls leading up to 18th September. They weren't exactly correct but pointed in the correct direction. Right. Absolutely embarrassingly wrong I think is what you are looking for here. Even those who came up with them have been very very sheepish about how brutally bad their predictions have turned out to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_B Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 It was on the radio today that this has been the warmest year on record. Where? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papad Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 The climate has changed all the way throughout history and my issue is that 2 thermonuclear devices were exploded along with all manner of incendiary explosive during a Global conflict in the 1940's. So why didn't the World come to an end with all the rises in temperature unless of course climate change scientists have obviated that from their findings? Also what about the recording of and the comparison of data? There are so many unanswered questions..... but you know that anyway.....I hope What the devil are you talking about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUFC90 Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 Where? I don't know what station but she mentioned this was a record breaking day for October with temperatures in some parts hitting 20.5°c. She then went onto to say this was the warmest year on record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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