vikingTON Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 There seems to be a predominant opinion on here (from younger, more impressionable posters, I reckon) that the idea of "life experience" is dismissible as an excuse for those who don't get on. Walesa was a working man (plumber iirc) who achieved great things without the benefit of university, management training, leadership courses or any of the theoretical knowledge it appears is now necessary to get into a position where you influence the lives of millions. What Walesa had was the support of his Union, the courage of his convictions, and a determination to do what was right. In particular, he acted according to the wishes of his constituents, not according to how his actions would affect opinion polls. He acted in a way that was good for people, not good for business. Unfortunately, fewer and fewer voters were even born back then - the TU movement is now seen as a negative force, and "Socialist" is actually used as an insult, most ironically by the American Right, who love their bible-bashing. Because Jesus would have joined the Republicans, wouldn't he? Fun fact: the number of credible historians who attribute the success (not to the mention the failures) of both Lech Walesa and Solidarity to its leaders' unquantifiable degree of "life experience" is precisely zero. That's before we even entertain the notion that Lech Walesa is a credible benchmark for the "life experience" cohort in post-industrial Scotland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todders Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 Oh I would so love to see Ad Lib knocking on the door of some poor old widow while babbling on about the intricacies of EU legislation like some sort of demented thesaurus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandarilla Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 Fun fact: the number of credible historians who attribute the success (not to the mention the failures) of both Lech Walesa and Solidarity to its leaders' unquantifiable degree of "life experience" is precisely zero. That's before we even entertain the notion that Lech Walesa is a credible benchmark for the "life experience" cohort in post-industrial Scotland. What a weird obsession you have to grind arguments into one dimensional aspects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Gaines Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 oaksoft, what do you make of the idea that standing in a seat that the Lib Dems know they can't win will give Ad Lib good experience going forward? Remembering that we know he's not going to make it to the commons, and he knows it as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthEnclosure Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 SNP sacked a teacher in Dundee so they could keep the alcohol allowance. Priorities, eh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AberdeenBud Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 Tbf oaksoft confidently predicted 65% Yes in the referendum despite his years of "life experience". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renton Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 You want to know why he's deluded for thinking that at the age of 22 (?) he has sufficient life experience to effectively represent tens of thousands of constituents, some of whom may be in dire need of his help? It would be like putting a toddler in charge of a tractor and expecting fresh straight plough lines. To be fair, that's possible, you get GPS navigation modules for tractors these days that work in tandem with the driver to keep the vehicle on a straight track. You could also buy off the shelf components, GPS module, Microcontroller, accelerometers, Analog devices even do a full 6 axis MEMS differential navigation module - basically you could turn the tractor into automated drone with the operator only there to control acceleration, and step in if something goes tits up. I digress, but if you put a sufficient support system in place, you can correct most individual short comings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elixir Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 The Telegraph: Scottish Labour MPs threaten to bar Ed Miliband from campaigning in their seats This article is funny as f**k. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 The Telegraph: Scottish Labour MPs threaten to bar Ed Miliband from campaigning in their seats This article is funny as f**k. That article is absolutely GLORIOUS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elixir Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 That article is absolutely GLORIOUS A third, when asked how things were looking in Scotland, simply formed his hand into a gun, raised it to his mouth and pulled the trigger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 That was my exact favourite line The telegraph are having a field day in that article. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thumper Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 SNP sacked a teacher in Dundee so they could keep the alcohol allowance. Priorities, eh. With spin like that you should be working for Murphy. What happened was that a principle teacher position was axed as part of a mammoth round of council cuts. At the last hour a councillor proposed that the 44 grand this saved could instead be taken from the budget for council refreshments and hospitality. When it came to a vote the original plan passed. Guess what Labour did during that vote? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 With spin like that you should be working for Murphy. What happened was that a principle teacher position was axed as part of a mammoth round of council cuts. At the last hour a councillor proposed that the 44 grand this saved could instead be taken from the budget for council refreshments and hospitality. When it came to a vote the original plan passed. Guess what Labour did during that vote? They very strongly abstained? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elixir Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 That was my exact favourite line The telegraph are having a field day in that article. Belter, likes. Meanwhile, I found a leaflet from the Lib Dems posted through my door when I got in a wee while ago. It was immediately crumpled up and thrown straight in the paper recycling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placidcasual Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 Good luck Ad Lib. I'm in East Renfrewshire.To be fair, I think it's only oaksoft who's had a dig but you're sticking your head above the parapet. You should definitely get some pamphlets with a headline of "I strongly advise you to vote Lib-Dem" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 Good luck Ad Lib. I'm in East Renfrewshire.To be fair, I think it's only oaksoft who's had a dig but you're sticking your head above the parapet. You should definitely get some pamphlets with a headline of "I strongly advise you to vote Lib-Dem" #AdLibDem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon EF Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 Who do we think the Slabber is who metaphorically blew their brains out. Would love to be Anus or wee Doogie, more likely Iain Davidson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young Joseph Stalin Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 I for one welcome our new Ad Lib overlord. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fotbawmad Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 The Telegraph: Scottish Labour MPs threaten to bar Ed Miliband from campaigning in their seats This article is funny as f**k. Cannae wait to see the tears when careerists who thought they had a seat for life like Anas Sarwar and Margaret Curran lose their seats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bairn Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 Oaksoft's head's all over the place right now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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