AberdeenBud Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 Has that no mark Rennie surfaced yet? Interesting but perhaps optimistic take here; Labour peer Dale Campbell-Savours, a former member of the Commons standards and privileges Committee, said he believed such a defence would be unsustainable and predicted that there would be a byelection. “It is inconceivable that a parliamentary committee could issue a penalty in a case of this gravity of less than 10 days’ suspension. Therefore a byelection will inevitably be triggered.” He added: “There is no greater sin that an MP can commit than to lie to his electorate.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee Willie Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 Has that no mark Rennie surfaced yet? Interesting but perhaps optimistic take here; Labour peer Dale Campbell-Savours, a former member of the Commons standards and privileges Committee, said he believed such a defence would be unsustainable and predicted that there would be a byelection. “It is inconceivable that a parliamentary committee could issue a penalty in a case of this gravity of less than 10 days’ suspension. Therefore a byelection will inevitably be triggered.” He added: “There is no greater sin that an MP can commit than to lie to his electorate.” But it's alright for a peer tae say onything he wants. Safe in the knowledge he is untouchable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~ Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 Ian Davidson getting tore into the Scottish Labour campaign Thus, we started our campaign aiming to attract back the 190,000 or so Scots who had previously voted Labour but voted Yes, and ended up begging No voting Tories to vote for us tactically. This mechanistic, patronising approach led to us having as our flagship policy the proposal to allow alcohol into football grounds. On the basis that the 190,000 were overwhelmingly men, aged 25-55, from the West coast, who liked football, we needed a football issue to run with. Allowing alcohol at football grounds was a football issue – thus it would be our policy. Similarly, our desperation in the closing days, when we were seen to be sinking fast, to attract tactical anti-SNP Tories and Liberals led us to identify fear of a second referendum as a concern of this group and to highlight this as one of our big ideas. Apart from being entirely negative (vote for us to stop something), it also led to the absurdity of a poster denouncing a second referendum on independence being launched in the most strongly Yes voting ward of a strongly Yes voting constituency, without any discussion as to whether this would be helpful. Which is why I didn’t attend – but my presence wasn’t required anyway – it wasn’t designed to help me. I wasn’t one of the chosen few candidates who were being provided with an abundance of resources while others struggled. Labour’s campaign must be one of the most blatant examples of cronyism ever seen in politics. http://m.scotsman.com/news/ian-davidson-labour-blighted-by-c-words-1-3781666 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AberdeenBud Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 The noose tightens. http://www.heraldscotland.com/mobile/politics/scottish-politics/carmichael-faces-ethics-inquiry-as-demands-grow-for-him-to-quit-as-mp.126979265 Can he see it out? Can't imagine there would be much difficulty getting 10% of the electorate to sign a recall petition. Be fitting if Carmicheal was the first MP to face action under a Bill championed by Clegg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamamafegan Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 Of course its not appropriate, I find it absolutely crazy that you are excusing Carmichael and putting it down as just a "mistake." How can you expect anyone to take you seriously? He deliberately lied to the people and has been exposed and humiliated for it. It's a bit like someone you know making up a rumour that you secretly enjoy shagging animals, alienating you from all your friends and colleagues, only to then admit a few weeks later that it was all a lie. Would you put that down as a mistake as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMMjag Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 Absolutely loving seeing this fat b*****d squirm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sons superhero Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 Didn't know Kev was fat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crùbag Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 Frank Beattie @mykilmarnock May 23 An SNP MP sits with canteen workers, not MPs. Media uproar. A unionist MP lies, cheats & misuses public funds: Just one of those things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevthedee Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 Frank Beattie @mykilmarnock May 23 An SNP MP sits with canteen workers, not MPs. Media uproar. A unionist MP lies, cheats & misuses public funds: Just one of those things. How did he misuse public funds ?? Yes he told lies and yes he cheated,misuse of public funds nope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 How did he misuse public funds ?? Yes he told lies and yes he cheated,misuse of public funds nope. Is Carmichael paying the £1.4m costs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MONKMAN Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 How did he misuse public funds ?? Yes he told lies and yes he cheated,misuse of public funds nope. 1.4 million pounds of public money was wasted, as a result of that lying toads inability to tell the truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevthedee Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 Is Carmichael paying the £1.4m costs? Does any mp pay the costs for investagations into their conduct,no the tax payer will foot the cost.did carmichael misuse £1,4m of tax pay payers money no he never. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 Is Carmichael paying the £1.4m costs? Anyone know who came up with this figure? Is it official? I can only find it on twitter, no mentions in the msm or Government statements. It seems unbelievably large for interviewing a few people in the Scottish Office and checking their phone records. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antiochas III Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 Does any mp pay the costs for investagations into their conduct,no the tax payer will foot the cost.did carmichael misuse £1,4m of tax pay payers money no he never. So you don't think agreeing to an investigation to find out who leaked the memo when it was himself is a misuse of public sums? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colkitto Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 Why did the fat lying b*****d hold an inquiry? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1320Lichtie Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 Does any mp pay the costs for investagations into their conduct,no the tax payer will foot the cost.did carmichael misuse £1,4m of tax pay payers money no he never. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crùbag Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 Seems like he can't be recalled. Sneeky Clegg's legislation hasn't come into force yet. Even the press were fooled. Needs outrage from the Islanders. He'll probably survive. Would be best for the LibDems to cut him loose but... http://lallandspeatworrier.blogspot.co.uk/2015/05/why-alistair-carmichael-cant-be-recalled.html?m=1&utm_content=buffer63c7b&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer Mundell has form too when it comes to leaking. This attack on him from his own side: http://conservativehome.blogs.com/torydiary/2007/03/david_mundell_m.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevthedee Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 Good contribution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1320Lichtie Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 Good contribution. It's MUCH better than ANYTHING you've EVER posted to be fair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madwullie Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 Does any mp pay the costs for investagations into their conduct,no the tax payer will foot the cost.did carmichael misuse £1,4m of tax pay payers money no he never. Erm the investigation wasn't into his conduct. It was to find out who had leaked. He knew he had leaked and knew it was bollocks but still initiated an investigation to find out who had leaked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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