JamieThomas Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 no deluded hearts fans make me chuckle enough. p.s iid guess you being a hearts fan you probaly believe your posts to be above standard to others. It's certainly above the standard of someone who struggles with a two letter word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crùbag Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 simply hearts cant afford to spend on 'big players' , so to say they choose youth over spending isnt a viable statement at all . rangers owners are an embrassment and so is the sfa for allowing this to happen, how can the easdales ever pass a fit and proper person test ?. when hearts have a good bank balance and still play with youth then your post will have a point but until then it does not. im amused also that a hearts fan is stupid enough to boast about there great run club after the past few years and have a CVA in place. Aye, you're daft right enough. I assume the OP is talking about the abysmal way we were run compared to how things are now. Hearts were a mess, we were punished and appear to have come through things in good shape with fan ownership on the horizon. Rangers went bust and appear to have learned nothing. Only new 'share issues' are keeping yous lot from admin again. No wonder, paying 4-figure wages to expensive signings in Div3!!! Fat Sally on £800k wages?!! I know Sevco fans don't like 'independence' but for a club with tens of thousands of paying fans on a weekly basis, surely fan ownership is a given? Duh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crùbag Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 It's certainly above the standard of someone who struggles with a two letter word. I was about to congratulate him on his grasp of English. It's obviously his second language. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elixir Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 From the standard of your post, I'd also wager that you're amused by the noise they metal doorstop coils make when you flick them. Hahaha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aylo vanal Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 difference.hearts couldnt service their debt How's it cheating though? Bad business yes, cheating? No. ( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aylo vanal Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 simply hearts cant afford to spend on 'big players' , so to say they choose youth over spending isnt a viable statement at all . rangers owners are an embrassment and so is the sfa for allowing this to happen, how can the easdales ever pass a fit and proper person test ?. when hearts have a good bank balance and still play with youth then your post will have a point but until then it does not. im amused also that a hearts fan is stupid enough to boast about there great run club after the past few years and have a CVA in place. Hearts do have a good bank balance Anyway question r.e your criticism of the sfa, I think they're damned if they do and damned if they don't when it comes to Rangers. If they'd said whyte wasn't a fit and proper person when he was being hailed as the "saviour" your lot would be asking ally for names and addresses. Rangers fans problem is and was you want someone else to cough up, if you want them to be safe and not getting robbed by crooks left right and centre you need to start a FoH type thing. I'd imagine Rangers could have 50000 folk paying £20 a month easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CowdenConvert Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 I'd imagine Rangers could have 50000 folk paying £20 a month easily.Wouldn't cover the wage bill IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aylo vanal Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 Wouldn't cover the wage bill IMO. That's initially to buy the club, what did green pay? £5m? Wouldn't have been hard for a team rangers size to raise. Then on top of that once they had the club you've got tickets and merchandise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat(The most tip top) Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 It is doubtful whether there was a realistic opportunity for Rangers to be rescued by a Foundation of Hearts style project. The foundation of Hearts was formed in 2010 three years before administration happened. They'd already been looking to come up with some kind of deal with UBIG and Ukio Bankas before they were out of the picture so when the time came to talk to the administrators of UBIG and Ukio Bankas instead they were already rolling. If a Foundation of Rangers had been formed in response to the administration it would have been hopelessly late in getting it's act together to put a serious bid together even if we assume that Duff & Phelps' 2 month administration process was all above board. The complexity of the Hearts case with all three entities being at different stages of administration process and the parties being spread between Scotland and Lithuania meant that there was never much chance of getting out of Admin by January which could have saved us from relegation but the delay also meant that there was time for the Foundation to drum up thousands of direct debits. What's more while we Hearts Supporters like to pat ourselves on the back, and appreciate other people patting us on the back, for saving the club ourselves as opposed waiting for someone else to clean up the mess it would be somewhat disingenuous to ignore Anne Budge's role in the project. If she hadn't been ready to tie up a big lump of her money for several years then normal Hearts supporters would have had to find several million over a matter of months as opposed to years to make a deal like this work. To cover the mess at Rangers would have taken substantially more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aylo vanal Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 It is doubtful whether there was a realistic opportunity for Rangers to be rescued by a Foundation of Hearts style project. The foundation of Hearts was formed in 2010 three years before administration happened. They'd already been looking to come up with some kind of deal with UBIG and Ukio Bankas before they were out of the picture so when the time came to talk to the administrators of UBIG and Ukio Bankas instead they were already rolling. If a Foundation of Rangers had been formed in response to the administration it would have been hopelessly late in getting it's act together to put a serious bid together even if we assume that Duff & Phelps' 2 month administration process was all above board. The complexity of the Hearts case with all three entities being at different stages of administration process and the parties being spread between Scotland and Lithuania meant that there was never much chance of getting out of Admin by January which could have saved us from relegation but the delay also meant that there was time for the Foundation to drum up thousands of direct debits. What's more while we Hearts Supporters like to pat ourselves on the back, and appreciate other people patting us on the back, for saving the club ourselves as opposed waiting for someone else to clean up the mess it would be somewhat disingenuous to ignore Anne Budge's role in the project. If she hadn't been ready to tie up a big lump of her money for several years then normal Hearts supporters would have had to find several million over a matter of months as opposed to years to make a deal like this work. To cover the mess at Rangers would have taken substantially more If the press had went after Rangers owners the same way they did Romanov maybe the fans would've seen the mess they were in sooner. Unfortunately for them papers were too scared to write anything bad about them incase they boycotted them as has been threatened in the past. I still think green buying them for circa £5m is so cheap and they could've raised that in a few weeks if needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SodjesSixteenIncher Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 Is this Aylo cat seriously trying to pretend he doesn't understand the difference between having debt and walking away from debt? Whit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aylo vanal Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 Is this Aylo cat seriously trying to pretend he doesn't understand the difference between having debt and walking away from debt? Whit I'm asking how we cheated? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SodjesSixteenIncher Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 I'm asking how we cheated? There's no fucking danger I'm getting dragged into this pish. Needless to say, you didn't actually think anyone was calling Hearts cheats for having debt. You're at it pal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insert Amusing Pseudonym Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 I bet the pensioners of Bosnia are getting more enjoyment out of this Hearts team and its swaggeringly sexual football than they would have from putting an extra beetroot in the Borscht. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolf Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 simply hearts cant afford to spend on 'big players' , so to say they choose youth over spending isnt a viable statement at all . rangers owners are an embrassment and so is the sfa for allowing this to happen, how can the easdales ever pass a fit and proper person test ?. when hearts have a good bank balance and still play with youth then your post will have a point but until then it does not. im amused also that a hearts fan is stupid enough to boast about there great run club after the past few years and have a CVA in place. Just a small point,Rangers can't afford "big players" but they chose to ignore that.Hence they are on the Precipice of another financial disaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin_Nevis Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 no deluded hearts fans make me chuckle enough. p.s iid guess you being a hearts fan you probaly believe your posts to be above standard to others. Fucking hell. Are you all crayon-chewing simpletons? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Gaines Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 It's the talking about the standard of posts that does it for me. I'm pretty sure Dryhorce is a proper wordsmith compared to this guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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