pub car king Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 I fully expect all manor of announcements made within the next 2 years such as. Oh shit turns out there is a f**k ton of oil after all and Rosyth will be shutting. And those mystical powers we promised you well sorry it doesn't sit right with the cotswolds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scary Bear Posted September 19, 2014 Author Share Posted September 19, 2014 The only way I can any meaningful change for Scotland and the powers it has, is for Milliband to be ousted from Labour, and for the likes of Murphy or Alexander to become next Labour leader, or at least have influence on policy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speckled tangerine Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 The only way I can any meaningful change for Scotland and the powers it has, is for Milliband to be ousted from Labour, and for the likes of Murphy or Alexander to become next Labour leader, or at least have influence on policy. I think labour have won the battle but lost the war. Scotland stays but they'll find non English MPs unable to legislate on English issues a nightmare. It's on the cards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biscuits Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Honestly don't think anything will happen. We will get some worthless new powers to shut us up and there is nothing we can do about it. Our chance is gone. Probably for ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjc Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Given the closeness of the result and the huge turnout I don't think that can be ignored......I'm hopeful we'll see more devolutionary powers not just to Hollyrood but also to the Welsh and Northern Irish Assemblies. Hopefully this will be the start of Politics being more engaging at local levels..........it certainly needs to stem the apathy normally shown. For that reason, I don't think it's all bad for the Yes campaign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orlandoblue Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 What happens now? We must get assurance that the independence question is put to bed for at least a generation as DC says. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowmore Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 What I find frustrating is the number of no voters who seem to want the benefits of this campaign i.e voter engagement, high turn outs, additional powers etc but don't seem to realise they got that BECAUSE if the campaign and voting no has put it straight back to what it was before. Could it not be that some of your countrymen see themselves as Brits? I've heard many say that want change for the UK not simply Scotland. I think that a lot of people have underestimated the belonging that many feel to the United Kingdom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour Skinner Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Now we wait for a Tory/UKIP coalition to f**k us over for years to come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaggy Jenkins Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 I will never vote in a Westminster election again as long as there is life in my body. I eco this sentiment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowmore Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Yes probably but the majority voted No out of fear. If you overlook that you've probably missed the root of the problem. This is NOT a happy country regardless of who you voted for. Other than a 50.1% Yes vote, this result is probably the worst possible outcome. BT scraping home is seriously bad news. You can apply that not just to Scotland but to the entire kingdom. Our great successes of the past have come when have stood together. I think the Scots can lead this change for the better of all. You have a history of doing so <thumbs up> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 ...Any powers we'll be handed will be unable to be wielded because they be incomplete powers... Holyrood politicians have been able to grab control over energy policy that was originally supposed to be reserved at Westminster and Salmond has even talked about having a veto over Trident being based at Faslane courtesy of Holyrood's hold over planning policy. The SNP can't just throw their toys out the pram at this point. If there are going to be negotiations over more powers they need to effectively represent the interests of the Scottish electorate on that and not just their hardcore 30% or so that fully buy into their brand of nationalism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemmy Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 What happens now? Some guy in a wig and gown decides what we're allowed to have. Yes don't forget his Puritan shoes and silly stick that he bangs on a door, God help us all we are doomed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Jagsfan Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 This is only the first leg. I know we are an away goal down, and now our centre forward is crocked and will not be able to play in the second leg. But we learned from the first game. We need to change formation and the style of play for the next leg. Don't go out hell for leather and get suckered by a last minute goal. (By the way this goal will later be seen to be offside, when the 'vow' is broken). Think more about tactics, and a good counterattack. Another striker to come off the bench is needed. Over to you , Nicola! By the way, if this is of any use, Lord Robert Smith of Kelvin who Dave has put in charge of the new bits of Scottish 'devolution' is a 'wee boy from Maryhill'. I saw him at Firhill several years ago. I think it was the day we got gubbed at home by Ayr to get demoted to the second division! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tubbs Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 I will never vote in a Westminster election again as long as there is life in my body. :) Taking it as badly as I had hoped I see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 I wish the BBC and other broadcasters wouldn't keep choosing No campaigners with English accents to interview. It's irrelevant but some loons could use it as justification for stirring up bigotry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowmore Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 I see that, that 'casual by' guy who was calling everyone who didn't agree an alias has disappeared. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CowdenConvert Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Well, what happens now? 45% want independence, 55% don't. No idea how many of the No vote would have voted for Devo Max as it wasn't on the ballot paper. My preferred option would have been a federal system, but as only the Lib Dems are proposing this, it's unlikely. Thoughts? Civil war. Yugoslavia style. Worked there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_B Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 I see that, that 'casual by' guy who was calling everyone who didn't agree an alias has disappeared. It'll still be here with a new host. My guess is the Anonaperson alias. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 I see that, that 'casual by' guy who was calling everyone who didn't agree an alias has disappeared. The real Bowmore: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hey! Ho! Jambo! Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 We get back into line and do what we are telt. Just as 55% of the electorate wishes it to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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