chomp my root Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Sorted Biggie St. Mirren have played some good passing football this season and have created plenty chances/half chances, it's been far from pretty for them. Dundee's success so far this season certainly has nothing to do with the playing attractive football, it's to do with hard work and being well organised. I'm not saying Dundee can't get that ball down and play a bit, when you pass teams off the park week in, week out, picking up big score lines along the way you can say your team play pretty football. However this is not the case for Dundee, Hartley has set Dundee out not to lose in every game, in these games there has been spells where Dundee play good football, but Dundee are far from a footballing side, they haven't played a team off the park yet. I do agree though if both teams get the ball down and play a passing game it should be a great game, however this will not happen. One team will gain a foothold in the match and the other will revert to countering.(Probably us.) For what its worth, I thought we were very lucky against a very good St. Mirren team but we did what we needed to do and put one past them. They had chances but not good ones, it was a couple of weeks ago but I don't think I was too worried about them. As myself and others have posted (admittedly biased Dundee fans) our game has come on leaps and bounds and its no surprise that we defend the way we're playing, every Dee I've spoken to is more than happy with us this season and that includes the 'style' that we play. While the whole 'playing off the park' stuff is very subjective surely you can see that us coming up from the league below and not just grinding out results but (for a lot of us) coming away from games saying we should have won (or should have won by more) is telling. Apart from the St. Mirren game we were pretty gash against Partick Thistle in the first half but the better team in the second and thats about it for poor games. Yes we are well organised and very fit, probably the fittest ( ) Dundee team I've ever seen but this is the foundation that our passing game is built on. Whatever the score on Sunday, we've played some pretty good stuff, especially as its effectively a new team, PH has done a brilliant job of getting guys in and making them a unit. We could do with either a younger fitter Peaso or that mythical 20 goal a season striker and we'd have had a lot more wins now. I'm not getting ahead of myself, theres still a lot of football to be played and if we have a couple more injuries to key people we don't have the strength in depth to fill the gaps but that doesn't take anything away from good 'sexy' football we've played so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chazas_ Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 The wee team are awfy confident aren't they. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludo*1 Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 chazas_, on 16 Sept 2014 - 22:08, said:The wee team are awfy confident aren't they. Dunno about that, I'd say yous seem more worried now that Ciftci is out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punk_dfc Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 It's not been easy in recent years being a Dundee fan but this is a good Dundee team and one that is capable of beating United. United clearly still the favourites and have that extra quality,no doubt (although that would be hampered if Ciftci and Armstrong are both out). The dynamic is different from the first derby 2 years ago. I thought then that Dundee would likely get a hiding and I was right. This time, I think they can sneak it. Hopefully, I'm right again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Dunno about that, I'd say yous seem more worried now that Ciftci is out. Ciftci will be a big loss for us, no doubt about it. So is our only recognised, experienced LB being out. Despite Morris's fresh air shot gifting Hamilton a goal on Saturday, him and Fojut have looked pretty solid. If Rankin and Paton can play to their max and Armstrong and/or Dow are fit then we will offer more of a game. Gutted I'm missing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RawB93 Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 In fairness, we are also missing our only LB, team captain and our top scorer of last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humf Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 Will there be any fisticuffs at this game? On or off the pitch, I don't mind. Yes.. If we lose, my missus is getting leathered Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigmouth Strikes Again Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 Will there be any fisticuffs at this game? On or off the pitch, I don't mind. You looking to get involved, or just spectating? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForzaDundee Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 Anything less than a win and a draw from the next two games and I'm quitting P&B. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAl024 Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 Sorted Biggie St. Mirren have played some good passing football this season and have created plenty chances/half chances, it's been far from pretty for them. Dundee's success so far this season certainly has nothing to do with the playing attractive football, it's to do with hard work and being well organised. I'm not saying Dundee can't get that ball down and play a bit, when you pass teams off the park week in, week out, picking up big score lines along the way you can say your team play pretty football. However this is not the case for Dundee, Hartley has set Dundee out not to lose in every game, in these games there has been spells where Dundee play good football, but Dundee are far from a footballing side, they haven't played a team off the park yet. I do agree though if both teams get the ball down and play a passing game it should be a great game, however this will not happen. One team will gain a foothold in the match and the other will revert to countering.(Probably us.) Cant disagree with this. Away to have a word with myself for agreeing with a filthy DAB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAl024 Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 Will there be any fisticuffs at this game? On or off the pitch, I don't mind. Plenty jobby flinging from the shysters no doubt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevthedee Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 don't know if it has been mentioned on this thread but Dundee food banks are asking for donations before the game am sure all fans can take something with them to help this cause. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humf Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 don't know if it has been mentioned on this thread but Dundee food banks are asking for donations before the game am sure all fans can take something with them to help this cause. It would pain me too much to hand over a £1 loaf of bread to the foodbank folks then go and spend £17.50 on a pie and cup coffee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wattie_rojas Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 Looks like Armstrong and dow will be fit for the game. I think both teams are well matched and we'll have to watch out for gms in particular. Hopefully we can stop him getting it in space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigmouth Strikes Again Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 Looks like Armstrong and dow will be fit for the game. I think both teams are well matched and we'll have to watch out for gms in particular. Hopefully we can stop him getting it in space. We get this shite before every derby from them, going back as far as I can remember.........'so and so's' injured, or 'so and so' isn't going to make it, come kick off time they are always there, prancing around with the dayglo shirt on, fit as a fiddle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twinkle Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 We get this shite before every derby from them, going back as far as I can remember.........'so and so's' injured, or 'so and so' isn't going to make it, come kick off time they are always there, prancing around with the dayglo shirt on, fit as a fiddle. Yeah it was all an elaborate hoax. We even went to the lengths of giving them last weekend off and sticking Chris fuckin Erskine up front as a striker to throw you all off the scent. Damn you Detective Bigmouth, your smarts know no bounds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chomp my root Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 We get this shite before every derby from them, going back as far as I can remember.........'so and so's' injured, or 'so and so' isn't going to make it, come kick off time they are always there, prancing around with the dayglo shirt on, fit as a fiddle. We've been known to dabble in it from time to time, even John Clown tried it (poorly) on occasion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigmouth Strikes Again Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 We've been known to dabble in it from time to time, even John Clown tried it (poorly) on occasion Maybe, but we're not as bad as these c***s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattydfc Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 Looks like Hartley might be off to Cardiff... 1/3 for him to be next manager on Paddy Power Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
booj Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 Looks like Hartley might be off to Cardiff... 1/3 for him to be next manager on Paddy Power The manager market is forever wrong in who finally gets the job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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