DeeTillEhDeh Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 I don't understand that why would they, they would have as much right to shape Scotlands future as any other party post independence. It was their policy for a long time. I think it would send a message that they weren't politicians just in it for themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bairn Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 I don't understand that why would they, they would have as much right to shape Scotlands future as any other party post independence. Look at South Africa after they got democracy. There's your answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boabinoban Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 I want you to go and sit on the stairs and think about what you've done here today. No one is impressed. Seconded Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boabinoban Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 Look at South Africa after they got democracy. There's your answer. Ooft! That's as relevant as comparing us to Ukraine! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon EF Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 Look at South Africa after they got democracy. There's your answer. What? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strichener Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 How exactly does bringing immigrants in to the country entice businesses to take on more staff? I never said it did. You stated Now, if the total number of jobs in the economy was increased, now we're talking... And my post was in answer to this point. However since you asked the question. If there is a larger population base then the requirement for service for these people will lead to increased employment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bairn Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 Ooft! That's as relevant as comparing us to Ukraine! Okay, Ireland then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bairn Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 What? The ANC, the African equivalent of the SNP, are a one party state. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chupacabra Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 This is a question I've asked the few people I know who are No voters, but haven't (by their own admission) received a reasonable response. I'm not having a go, I'm just genuinely interested in the answer. I'm going to lift my question almost word-for-word from a post I made the other day. I can fully understand that people are concerned, however rationally / irrationally you want to look at it, about finances after independence if the Yes movement wins - pensions, savings accounts, interest rates, welfare, etc.. I can fully understand that people believe finances in an independent Scotland will be a risk. My question is thus: what is it about an independent Scotland that you believe is more risky than staying in the union, which is currently one-and-a-half trillion pounds in debt (and this debt is rising by over a hundred billion pounds a year) and has a basket-case of a failed economy based largely on financial speculators and the London property market, and an upcoming pensions crisis caused by a refusal to admit that immigration is the solution? What is it about this financial situation the union is in that makes you believe your finances are safer than in an independent Scotland? As I've said, not having a go - I just haven't had a No voter give me a satisfactory (again, by their own admission) answer. Over to you. Just bumped this and posted it on Facebook. Ta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon EF Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 The ANC, the African equivalent of the SNP, are a one party state. OK, the major problem here is that the SNP are in no way the Scottish equivalent to the ANC. Apart from that, great point buddy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SweeperDee Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 Holy f**k. Comparing the SNP to the ANC. How could you possibly compare the political landscape of South Africa to Scotland? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speckled tangerine Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 The ANC, the African equivalent of the SNP, are a one party state. Spoken like an old West coast Lay-burrrr type who can't get over the fact the Electorate stole their ba' and handed it to the Ess-En-Pee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_B Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 In what way is the UK a "basket-case" economy? How many "basket-case" economies are there in the EU then, out of interest? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 In what way is the UK a "basket-case" economy? How many "basket-case" economies are there in the EU then, out of interest? If No can be accused of dissing iScotland then Yes face the same accusation over the UK economy. http://reports.weforum.org/global-competitiveness-report-2014-2015/economies/#economy=GBR The UK is 9th in terms of global competitveness. There's not going to be an economic Armageddon with either Yes or No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boabinoban Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 No comparison whatsoever. There is no apartheid in Scotland for a start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strichener Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 If No can be accused of dissing iScotland then Yes face the same accusation over the UK economy. http://reports.weforum.org/global-competitiveness-report-2014-2015/economies/#economy=GBR The UK is 9th in terms of global competitveness. There's not going to be an economic Armageddon with either Yes or No. Whoop! Whoop! 38th in quality of secondary education. 54th in terms of secondary enrollment rate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_B Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 If No can be accused of dissing iScotland then Yes face the same accusation over the UK economy. http://reports.weforum.org/global-competitiveness-report-2014-2015/economies/#economy=GBR The UK is 9th in terms of global competitveness. There's not going to be an economic Armageddon with either Yes or No. Well, exactly. It does the Yes campaign no credit. The problems the UK face, iScotland is going to face also. Debt, an ageing population with pensions to pay for, and spending beyond our means currently, so facing either cuts to services, tax rises or borrowing to support spending. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_B Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 Whoop! Whoop! 38th in quality of secondary education. 54th in terms of secondary enrollment rate. Based on what report? http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/leaguetables/10488555/OECD-education-report-subject-results-in-full.html 26th in Mathematics 23rd in Reading 21st in Science Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 Holy f**k. Comparing the SNP to the ANC. How could you possibly compare the political landscape of South Africa to Scotland? With the NO voters scrambling for anything sensible to say, don't be surprised if the amount of shite they come up with gets more and more ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 Soundness of banks: That basket case Panama 12th. The prudent guys 89th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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