All things Dundee FC

[TONTROOPER]

42 minutes ago, Ludo*1 said:

I'm starting to think Larry Grayson & Williamson have been signed as cheap loans.

 

[Ludo*1]

Team for Falkirk. I'd certainly be experimenting with something different if I were Bowyer as it's looking increasingly clear that it's not working.

If McCowan is out for an extended spell and he doesn't fancy McGinn then it's time to go to the 3-5-2 that he keeps hinting at.

Here's how I'd line us up for the next game:

                                Legzdins

        McGhee -- Ashcroft -- French

Kerr                                                               Marshall

      McGowan -- Any CM -- Mulligan

                      Rudden -- Robinson

I say any CM, but I'd like it to give Robertson a chance since it's League One opposition, Bowyer would probably go for Grayson but there's also Anderson. Not including Byrne since he doesn't seem to be an option.

[Buckfast]

On 21/08/2022 at 10:39, Buckfast said:

I hate to say I told you so.

   On 20/08/2022 at 23:26,  RossBFaeDundee said: 

2 shots total, and zero shots on target. Pish, I want my big hulking no. 9 who batters defenders and hogs the penalty box, and I want him now!

You will see one on Friday night but he will be wearing number 9 for Ayr.

[RossBFaeDundee]

12 minutes ago, Buckfast said:

 

   On 20/08/2022 at 23:26,  RossBFaeDundee said: 

2 shots total, and zero shots on target. Pish, I want my big hulking no. 9 who batters defenders and hogs the penalty box, and I want him now!

You will see one on Friday night but he will be wearing number 9 for Ayr.

I don't recall refuting this, but whatever quote tweeting you attempted there is very bizarre to look at.

[Buckfast]

3 minutes ago, RossBFaeDundee said:

I don't recall refuting this, but whatever quote tweeting you attempted there is very bizarre to look at.

The drink is kicking in.

[Neilfs]

5 hours ago, Ludo*1 said:

I don't think, even if we win this league, that we'll do it convincingly.

The league is utter gash, us included.

Can't remember the last team to win this league that could be described as cracking team. Probably Hearts but other than that, can't think of any.

I think Ross County before Hearts had a well organised side that went on to hold their own the season after.

I agree with you in that the league is definitely weaker at the top. A few years ago Hibs Rangers, Livi, Hearts, Dundee Utd, St Mirren were at one time here.

Conversely the bottom has got stronger in that there are no really weak teams that are obvious to go down. 

I enjoy this league and watch it Friday nights. I have seen Dundee a few times. 

[hk blues]

9 hours ago, Der Panzer said:

Can anyone explain to me what our play style is or what Bowyer wants the team to do?

Cos I can’t - but more worrying is I am not convinced he nor our players know either..

You probably need to ask some of the other clubs' managers - they seem to have sussed us out already

[K.T]

I thought last night was entertaining if nothing else. f**k all we can do about it so might as well just get the arms up in the air for the downward parts of the rollercoaster. 

[Fifespud]

I thought last night was entertaining if nothing else. f**k all we can do about it so might as well just get the arms up in the air for the downward parts of the rollercoaster. 

Lol. You’re not wrong.

[Peadar BigDinnerO'Driscoll]

10 hours ago, johnnydun said:

Hate to repeat myself....

But f**k ye's I'm going to anyway...

Bowyer underestimates Scottish football. These lower league English players are simply not good enough. 

Best player on the pitch last night has only really played non lge football though...

[Shadow Play]

10 hours ago, DeeTillEhDeh said:

What's the story with McGinn right now?

Has he fallen out with Bowyer?

Or does Bowyer just not rate him?

It looked to me that he has no place in the manager's plans.

My guess is Bowyer doesn’t think he’s getting value for money from him and is hoping to edge him out the door - I’m assuming he’s on a significant wage.  

In any case I’m not sure McGinn is the answer.  He is 35 years old and from the games I’ve seen him in he doesn’t exactly look like he’s showing the younger players any leadership.  Has the appearance of a player just seeing out his days.  Better giving others a chance to gain experience IMHO.

 

[Fifespud]

The biggest problem since the Patrick game has been central defence. Absolutely shocking. Total panic stations at every attack they have to defend. I blame nobody else but the 2 CH’s and to an extent the keepers lack of experience. Sweeney is out now, which is good because he was needing dropped, I know most on here rate French but I’d be tempted to go Ashcroft, McGhee and Ledzgins.

[Derry Alli]

12 hours ago, Thistle4eva said:

No chance!

£100 charity bet.

Your move.

[Shadow Play]

1 hour ago, Fifespud said:

The biggest problem since the Patrick game has been central defence. Absolutely shocking. Total panic stations at every attack they have to defend. I blame nobody else but the 2 CH’s and to an extent the keepers lack of experience. Sweeney is out now, which is good because he was needing dropped, I know most on here rate French but I’d be tempted to go Ashcroft, McGhee and Ledzgins.

…..and replace Marshall with French 

[rainbowrising]

With Robinson up front we had a good 10 minute spell then suddenly we lose 2 goals and defensively come close to falling apart for a period after that. Sweeney is awful and I lost count how often Kerr would be out wide and play an inside ball straight to an Ayr player. 

It was galling to watch our CBs complain to the ref about the way Akinyemi was dealing with them only for him to then leave them staring as he skelpt a belter in the top corner. I dont know how his season will turn out but he made Rudden look as average as average can get.

We had such a high-energy start to the game then completely flat. 

 

[Dundee-FC92]

I've said all season - we're still pish. I think we'll finish top though and exepected us to get beat last night. 

McGhee is a nothing central midfieder; we all know that but Bowyer still has some learning to do there. Why McGinn didn't come on as a straight replacement for McCowan was a dreadful decision. 

Sweeneys been needing dropped all season along with Marshall. We simply won't win alot of away games with these two in the squad along with our mediocrities such as McGowan, Kerr and McMullen it's largely the woeful side of last season. 

The McPake disaster will effect us for at least another year and there'll be plenty of them sorts of games to come. Overall i think we'll get it right though. For what it's worth i expect us to win the next 3 games in the coming fornight. The table will look alot better after that and we'll be in a cup quarter final. 

A couple of signings this week would be a bonus.

Thank you. 

[Fifespud]

…..and replace Marshall with French [emoji6]

I thought Sweeney! I was chuckling last night when Sweeney once found himself in the outside left position. The cross? Row z!

[Yenitit]

That was pish last night. The most worrying thing about the game was the manager performance was worse that the team he put on the park. Wtf were those subbies all about? None made sense. Starting to worry he’s underestimating the league. 
 

Sweeney’s been shite this season. 

[Ludo*1]

Reading on TDBF that Bowyer has punted Alan Combe and Legzdins was taking the warm up last night in an attempt to squeeze out some more cash to play with.

Surely it's not that desperate?!

[Boo Khaki]

9 hours ago, Dundee-FC92 said:

McGhee is a nothing central midfieder; we all know that but Bowyer still has some learning to do there. Why McGinn didn't come on as a straight replacement for McCowan was a dreadful decision.

This.

Couldn't believe what I was watching. We have a like-for-like replacement on the bench we could have just subbed in and maintained an approach that saw us have the far better of the game prior to flogging a bad goal from a poorly defended corner, but no, Bowyer brings on McGhee instead, meaning Mulligan gets wasted playing out on the right and vanishes for the rest of the game, McMullan switches over to the left where he's never as effective, McGowan gets hooked at half-time leaving us with two lumps in central midfield and get over-run (as we have any time we've played 4-4-2 for years), and to top it all he later brings on Williamson, who I can't for the life of me see why he was loaned in as he's shown absolutely nothing to warrant it. 

I don't understand this obsession some of our fans have for playing two strikers, and I don't understand why Bowyer is intent on it either. When you have no control in midfield and aren't creating anything, playing two up top just magnifies those problems and it becomes like playing with 10 men. IF we hadn't given away a soft equaliser, and IF we had scored when we had the better of the first 10 minutes of the second half then the game might have turned out differently. We threw away a lead when we were comfortable, and then failed to capitalise once we were back on top. If you don't take your opportunities then you will always get what's coming, but still, the changes Bowyer made were total headscratchers and I think he set us up to fail as a result.

And yep, this Sharp/Sweeney/French triumvirate is hopeless. Sweeney's red could be a gift as it gets Ashcroft or McGhee back into the side, and I think Legs needs to be back between the sticks to give a young keeper who is conceding far too many a break. 

Edited August 27, 2022 by Boo Khaki