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The squad is still largely McPake's team.
Bowyer is 5 games into the season with McPake's team. Be performing miracles if we won the league without any nights like these. In fact, be a miracle to win the league with this squad.
Who were your recommendations again!?


We haven't really been convincing at all in any of the 5 games - defensively we're all over the shop - and we're crying out for someone to control the game in the middle of the park. Up front - Rudden on his own just doesn't work - not necessarily having to play 2 up but perhaps one just off him and the midfield being closer to support. It's also infuriating we have players who can play with width yet persist in lumping it up. Our goal and best chances all came out wide yet we just didn't use the wings enough.
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4 minutes ago, DeeTillEhDeh said:


 

 


We haven't really been convincing at all in any of the 5 games - defensively we're all over the shop - and we're crying out for someone to control the game in the middle of the park. Up front - Rudden on his own just doesn't work - not necessarily having to play 2 up but perhaps one just off him and the midfield being closer to support. Its also infuriating we have players who can play with width yet persist in lumping it up. Our goal and best chances all came out wide yet we just didn't use the wings enough.

 

I don't think, even if we win this league, that we'll do it convincingly.

The league is utter gash, us included.

Can't remember the last team to win this league that could be described as cracking team. Probably Hearts but other than that, can't think of any.

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I was dead against the Bowyer appointment but surely we need to give the man a chance?
The centre of defence has been a problem since league game 1. Sure Sweeney was shite tonight, he’s going to be out for at least a couple of weeks so a chance to find out what French is like next to someone else.
I’d also put the Legend in goal although I doubt he’d have saved any of those goals tonight.
Thought the subs tonight were all a bit baffling.
Hey ho, this is what being a Dundee fan is all about.

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I was dead against the Bowyer appointment but surely we need to give the man a chance?
The centre of defence has been a problem since league game 1. Sure Sweeney was shite tonight, he’s going to be out for at least a couple of weeks so a chance to find out what French is like next to someone else.
I’d also put the Legend in goal although I doubt he’d have saved any of those goals tonight.
Thought the subs tonight were all a bit baffling.
Hey ho, this is what being a Dundee fan is all about.
Agree about Legdzins - apart from being overall a better keeper it might make the centre-halves more confident.
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A 4-5-1 with the two wingers attacking.
We just didn't use the wings effectively tonight - Ayr's pressing meant we kept lumping it up but also the gap between midfield and Rudden made it harder for them to support him - that again was down to the pressing.

PS I take back the comment regards your cat - just fucking pissed off with that game - and genuinely how poor we were.
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4 minutes ago, DeeTillEhDeh said:

We just didn't use the wings effectively tonight - Ayr's pressing meant we kept lumping it up but also the gap between midfield and Rudden made it harder for them to support him - that again was down to the pressing.

PS I take back the comment regards your cat - just fucking pissed off with that game - and genuinely how poor we were.

No probs, we're all fucking seething.

Thank you.

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1 minute ago, DeeTillEhDeh said:

What's the story with McGinn right now?

Has he fallen out with Bowyer?

Or does Bowyer just not rate him?

It looked to me that he has no place in the manager's plans.

No, there is no way an International player from a diddy foreign land is a match for a Sunday league player from England.

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