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I'm not sold on French or Sharp.

Think as the season goes on we'll be better suited with McGhee/Ashcroft and Sweeney and Legzdins in goal.

Plenty of competition for those spots though which is only a good thing!

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First game of the season only so very much early days, however it's difficult not to be realistic in the main.

  • Arguably 5 previous seasons of diabolical management and thereby overall a poor standard of player recruitment, many of whom are still at the club.
  • Jury still out and rightly so regarding Gary Bowyer, however early alarm bells are ringing regarding his actual awareness of the level of football he's currently employed in.
  • Not advocating the return of Charlie Adam, however when he was not playing how many postings on here over the previous two seasons highlighted the lack of a points return due to the lack of a creative midfield presence?

In general, as painful as it is obvious, sometimes hard work just isn't enough I'm afraid, although it should always be a given.

If fit and available, Scott Allan would be a creative start plus bin any ideas of further loan signings who are nowt more than development players.

Please don't underestimate the job in hand Mr Bowyer, unproven players from the 4th and 5th tiers of English football in all honesty, just may not improve our lot in any shape or form.

As always, merely my opinion.

Cheers.

 

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Surprised no one has mentioned McGinn. He was the most disappointing for me today. At one point he actually stopped playing when the ball was beside him. Mulligan looks like he’ll be a player. Although couple times it looked like he was going himself too much and either getting tackled or leaving himself an impossible shot instead of squaring it across the box. Although I was at the opposite end of the pitch so I’ll admit I could have that one wrong. Still not convinced by French defensively. most frustrating part was that freekick centre of goal and we chip it towards the corner rather than having a shot. 

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17 minutes ago, K.T said:

Surprised no one has mentioned McGinn. He was the most disappointing for me today. At one point he actually stopped playing when the ball was beside him. Mulligan looks like he’ll be a player. Although couple times it looked like he was going himself too much and either getting tackled or leaving himself an impossible shot instead of squaring it across the box. Although I was at the opposite end of the pitch so I’ll admit I could have that one wrong. Still not convinced by French defensively. most frustrating part was that freekick centre of goal and we chip it towards the corner rather than having a shot. 

The freekick was about 35 yards out, McMullan isn’t scoring from there. 

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2 minutes ago, Yenitit said:

The freekick was about 35 yards out, McMullan isn’t scoring from there. 

Fair play then! Looked closer from where I was.

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2 hours ago, Shadow Play said:

I thought Fin Robertson did well today, especially coming on when he did.  

I know this may upset some but I think Robertson gives much more to the team than Byrne.

I think the same. Got slated last season constantly for saying questioning what everyone sees in Anderson. The game passed him by today, he's a passenger week in week out. Midfield should be McGowan, Mulligan and Robertson. Pace and strength with Robertson and Mulligan and McGowan is consistently good. At least Mulligan and McGowan like to shoot. Can't say the same for Byrne or Anderson. Too early to assess Williamson imo

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5 minutes ago, LM_0803 said:

I think the same. Got slated last season constantly for saying questioning what everyone sees in Anderson. The game passed him by today, he's a passenger week in week out. Midfield should be McGowan, Mulligan and Robertson. Pace and strength with Robertson and Mulligan and McGowan is consistently good. At least Mulligan and McGowan like to shoot. Can't say the same for Byrne or Anderson. Too early to assess Williamson imo

Spot on.

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I've always thought Anderson was a lot of huff and puff and very little footballing ability, but I've held off saying anything because it's not generally well accepted if you slag young players who are youth products, plus I thought he needed a while in the team before he might show just why he was playing regularly at his age. Still not seeing anything from him though. I thought he was definitely the type of player we were lacking when he came into the team, so I can understand why he got the chance in the first place, but it's nearly two years on and I'd have hoped he'd have shown a lot more by now than he actually has.

Robertson I thought looked nowhere near ready for 1st team football in the wee run that he got despite the plaudits he was receiving. Sure, he looked neat and tidy enough, but he wasn't actually contributing anything to the team either defensively or going forwards. If he's grown up a bit since then and can impose himself a bit more on the game then I'm all for giving him another chance.

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I've always thought Anderson was a lot of huff and puff and very little footballing ability, but I've held off saying anything because it's not generally well accepted if you slag young players who are youth products, plus I thought he needed a while in the team before he might show just why he was playing regularly at his age. Still not seeing anything from him though. I thought he was definitely the type of player we were lacking when he came into the team, so I can understand why he got the chance in the first place, but it's nearly two years on and I'd have hoped he'd have shown a lot more by now than he actually has.
Robertson I thought looked nowhere near ready for 1st team football in the wee run that he got despite the plaudits he was receiving. Sure, he looked neat and tidy enough, but he wasn't actually contributing anything to the team either defensively or going forwards. If he's grown up a bit since then and can impose himself a bit more on the game then I'm all for giving him another chance.

I think Byrne needs dropped before young Max. Max has a bit of touch and a bit of strength, chips in with an odd goal, he can also get us up the park. Byrne does f**k all. Barely crosses the halfway line and never passes forwards.
Defence is where we are really struggling. French looks a bomb scare to me, Sweeney can also self destruct as we saw today. The sooner Ashcroft and/or McGhee is back the better.
I think we were a wee bit unlucky today, dark blue specs maybe, but we created chances throughout the 90 minutes, with decent finishing we could have scored 5.
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13 minutes ago, Fifespud said:


I think Byrne needs dropped before young Max. Max has a bit of touch and a bit of strength, chips in with an odd goal, he can also get us up the park. Byrne does f**k all. Barely crosses the halfway line and never passes forwards.
Defence is where we are really struggling. French looks a bomb scare to me, Sweeney can also self destruct as we saw today. The sooner Ashcroft and/or McGhee is back the better.
I think we were a wee bit unlucky today, dark blue specs maybe, but we created chances throughout the 90 minutes, with decent finishing we could have scored 5.

100%, This is what I was trying to get across on the match thread. I think we just gifted 3 goals away today, without Thistle really threatening, I didn't think they were that great. We had 13 shots and 8 corners, take away the calamities and we are winning that. (No doubt I will come under a bit of stick.)

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Discussed it in here before, but Byrne is infuriating because there's 1 game in 10 where he does exactly what you'd hope of him. Takes no prisoners in the challenge, gets the ball, doesn't waste it. The problem is that 9 games in 10 he's just totally anonymous and contributes nothing. If Bowyer could somehow get that 1 in 10 performance out of him even half the time then he'd be undroppable, but as it is he's a passenger for the most part.

I think that's been the biggest problem with our team for years if I'm honest. Aye, there was the farce with McPake trying to play 3 at the back with Forster flogging goal after goal, but for years we've persistently had a midfield where either one or more of the regulars is a total passenger, or we've tried to play a system we just didn't have the players for, or we had to pack the midfield so much with plodders that it left us playing one up front who was constantly isolated and got no service. We had spells where it was either a midfield pair getting totally overrun, no dynamism because of the lack of a box-to-box player, or a total lack of width due to having no wingers of any note in the squad. It's been yonks since we had a midfield that was a fully functional unit where every player had a role they were suited to and performed it regularly, and I think the closest we've got is when we played a 3 with Adam, McGhee, and Byrne/Gowser.

I know most folk think we're lacking a creative influence, and I wouldn't disagree, but in terms of depth the middle of the park was the one area I wasn't really concerned about going into this season. We have plenty of players who are naturally central players, three out-and-out wingers, Jak who is kinda a wide forward (allegedly), so we really shouldn't struggle, but on the evidence of today it looks like we've gone from being utterly reliant on a 36 year old midfielder to being just as reliant on a 34, soon to be 35 year old, and that is concerning.

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100%, This is what I was trying to get across on the match thread. I think we just gifted 3 goals away today, without Thistle really threatening, I didn't think they were that great. We had 13 shots and 8 corners, take away the calamities and we are winning that. (No doubt I will come under a bit of stick.)

We’re of the same mind Johnny. We were cutting through them like a hot knife through butter. (I’ve now had 3 stiff voddies to be fair). We cannot defend like that and expect to have a happy season.
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I feel the need to get this off my chest, and my tin hat is already on, because I know it's not the thing to do with our young players.

However... I'm not sold on Sharp at all. I think he's got a decent reputation because he's a keeper from our academy and he's not Ian Lawlor. Lawlor was getting regularly berated for his kicking, I'd argue that Sharp's is considerably worse. He is nowhere near dominant of his 6 yard box and whilst he can pull off a cracking save, I don't think he has enough of the basics. He wasn't the main one to blame for the second goal today - absolutely nowhere near it, it was all on Sweeney, but a good keeper takes the pressure off in that situation. I don't think I could see Legzdins falling culprit to that particular mistake.

I'm not writing Sharp off at all, I think he could potentially have a big future, just as I thought Ferrie and Gourlay could before him (both first choice keepers in our league this season) but I think he needs more experience at a lower level. It's not the time for him to be our first choice keeper and the sooner the Legzdins is back the better. Let's let Sharp learn his trade without burying him under the pressure of us

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I feel the need to get this off my chest, and my tin hat is already on, because I know it's not the thing to do with our young players.
However... I'm not sold on Sharp at all. I think he's got a decent reputation because he's a keeper from our academy and he's not Ian Lawlor. Lawlor was getting regularly berated for his kicking, I'd argue that Sharp's is considerably worse. He is nowhere near dominant of his 6 yard box and whilst he can pull off a cracking save, I don't think he has enough of the basics. He wasn't the main one to blame for the second goal today - absolutely nowhere near it, it was all on Sweeney, but a good keeper takes the pressure off in that situation. I don't think I could see Legzdins falling culprit to that particular mistake.
I'm not writing Sharp off at all, I think he could potentially have a big future, just as I thought Ferrie and Gourlay could before him (both first choice keepers in our league this season) but I think he needs more experience at a lower level. It's not the time for him to be our first choice keeper and the sooner the Legzdins is back the better. Let's let Sharp learn his trade without burying him under the pressure of us

I’ve been the biggest critic of the Legend but my toys wouldn’t be out the pram if he comes straight back in.
I’m torn between wanting to play all the young lads regardless and also wanting to have a really enjoyable season.
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5 minutes ago, Ludo*1 said:

I feel the need to get this off my chest, and my tin hat is already on, because I know it's not the thing to do with our young players.

However... I'm not sold on Sharp at all. I think he's got a decent reputation because he's a keeper from our academy and he's not Ian Lawlor. Lawlor was getting regularly berated for his kicking, I'd argue that Sharp's is considerably worse. He is nowhere near dominant of his 6 yard box and whilst he can pull off a cracking save, I don't think he has enough of the basics. He wasn't the main one to blame for the second goal today - absolutely nowhere near it, it was all on Sweeney, but a good keeper takes the pressure off in that situation. I don't think I could see Legzdins falling culprit to that particular mistake.

I'm not writing Sharp off at all, I think he could potentially have a big future, just as I thought Ferrie and Gourlay could before him (both first choice keepers in our league this season) but I think he needs more experience at a lower level. It's not the time for him to be our first choice keeper and the sooner the Legzdins is back the better. Let's let Sharp learn his trade without burying him under the pressure of us

That's fair, he's been thrown in, and has done a decent job, but we definitely need Legzdins back.

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16 hours ago, Boo Khaki said:

Shocking first half. Much improvement required before what isn't an easy trip to Kirkcaldy.

Don't want to tempt fate but I was at both the Aberdeen and Cove matches. Raith are pleasant on the eye, number 7 is very tidy but no cutting edge.
 

4-0 Raith 😂

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If Sharp is going to be a good keeper for us he has to be more commanding.  For PT’s 2nd goal Sweeney was running towards his own goal.  I’d expect my keeper to be nearer the edge of his box ready to reach the ball first and clear it.  Yes, I know Sweeney is the captain but Sharp should be telling Sweeney what’s going to happen in circumstances like that.

Also, how on earth can a professional player not be able to keep the ball in play when kicking out from the back?  Utterly baffling how often Sharp kicks the ball out of play.  

 

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Don't want to tempt fate but I was at both the Aberdeen and Cove matches. Raith are pleasant on the eye, number 7 is very tidy but no cutting edge.
 
4-0 Raith

Yeah I watched Aberdeen v Raith on a stream and agree they were easy on the eye and the 3 zip score flattered the Dons.
Reality sets in.
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