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Early pre season problems.
 

No one to score the goals. Jakubiak isn’t going to do it and Rudden is a bit meh. 

No one to open up the other team by their passing range from the centre of midfield. Anderson and Mulligan can run beyond the strikers all day but no one that’s creative 

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2 minutes ago, locheedee said:

Suspect he's maybe misjudged the standard a bit or they've not performed like he expected.

The good thing is he's seen they aren't good enough and ditched them rather than sign them up anyway.

Totally agree. A player that can’t get a game for Exeter City isn’t going to be good enough for us. 

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6 minutes ago, MarbellaDEE said:

Aye I’m not seeing where the swagger and confidence is coming from other than blind faith in Bowyer to make things right. We were howling last season and the vast majority of the season before and now all of a sudden Fin who could hardly get a game for Cove is going to be a league winner? We have lost Charlie who dragged us to where we were and replaced him with nobody IMO.

im blootered, viva la Rory McIlroy.

Thank You. 

Charlie would be ideal in this side in this league. 

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43 minutes ago, Fifespud said:


Taking his time over signings is pretty reassuring, he has to suss out what we’ve got already. So far so good.

 

28 minutes ago, Yenitit said:

The only worry so far is the standard of trialists he’s had in. They’re no where near the required standard. 

Like an above poster said he’s got 6 weeks to sort this, I’m more than happy he’s took players on and almost instantly decided they weren’t up to scratch, where French is concerned I’ll take his word for it considering he’s signed him before but so far a bit meh, maybe that cause of his opposition so far odd to say but the test will be Queen’s Park and maybe even Simon Murray who is on a hot streak , genuinely looking forward to this game

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2 hours ago, johnnydun said:

Speaking of youths, I think a lot of these big money moves that other young Scottish talent are getting has a lot to do with the marketing and branding of them. The recent ones have been (albeit very different types) no better imo (although not seeing them every week) than Anderson or Mulligan, I think if we firstly sign them up on 4 year deals then market them both correctly, we could get 7 figure sums for them.

This is Dundee we're talking about, that's too sensible for us 😂

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The problem with CA is that he would stop playing at some point and we have no one close. Might get lucky and find a young CA somewhere but a senior player of that ability would probably sign up in a higher division .

I'm surprised some are wondering about the squad, trialists etc.  Overall, we were shit last year so unless a major overhaul was looming we will go in to the season with the same range of decent/average/shite players as before.

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Could easily pass us back into the premiership, would still be the best footballer in the championship by a country mile. In my humble opinion.
anyone got a stat on how many points we picked up without him last season? 

We struggled to get promoted with him in the team when he was 2 years younger. How has any other team ever got promoted without Charlie?
How many points would we have picked last season with an alternative quality player, receiving Charlie’s wage, who could play football AND run.
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1 hour ago, Fifespud said:


We struggled to get promoted with him in the team when he was 2 years younger. How has any other team ever got promoted without Charlie?
How many points would we have picked last season with an alternative quality player, receiving Charlie’s wage, who could play football AND run.

We may have struggled to get promoted with him in the team but we absolutely would not have got promoted without him. I was disappointed when he wasn’t kept for another season in the championship because he’s miles ahead of anyone else we have or could afford/tempt. I don’t think he was finished at championship level, perhaps another season in the premiership would have been too much but I don’t think it’s a stretch to say he would still do a job against most teams in that league. 
 

We basically picked up no points when he didn’t play which gives me the fear for this season and while I agree about having someone that can run, there’s not exactly an abundance of quality midfielders queuing up at Dens that can offer what Charlie did for the team. 
 

All about opinions I suppose and he’s not going to be coming back, just have to hope the midfield we have is up to scratch for a title challenge. 
 

 

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We may have struggled to get promoted with him in the team but we absolutely would not have got promoted without him. I was disappointed when he wasn’t kept for another season in the championship because he’s miles ahead of anyone else we have or could afford/tempt. I don’t think he was finished at championship level, perhaps another season in the premiership would have been too much but I don’t think it’s a stretch to say he would still do a job against most teams in that league. 
 
We basically picked up no points when he didn’t play which gives me the fear for this season and while I agree about having someone that can run, there’s not exactly an abundance of quality midfielders queuing up at Dens that can offer what Charlie did for the team. 
 
All about opinions I suppose and he’s not going to be coming back, just have to hope the midfield we have is up to scratch for a title challenge. 
 
 

It is about opinions but I actually think he cost us points last season, or at least the formation we were forced play to accommodate him and the managers inability to sign players to fit the formation. Either 3,5,2 or 4,5,1.
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Adam could’ve been a big player for us this year but I don’t think we will necessarily be suffering without a direct replacement. We have much greater strength on the wings this time around with McGinn, McMullan and McCowan compared to Mcdaid last time so having a midfield full of runners and battlers may be ok.

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12 minutes ago, Ludo*1 said:

Greg Stewart is available. Talk of Dunfermline going for him.

Very good. Emma Watson is also available, and there's talk of me going for her. By me, admittedly.

Being more serious though, is he available? I thought he'd signed a deal with Mumbai City to stay in India for another season? Just had a look again and it doesn't seem to have been mentioned since May, so perhaps it collapsed. It wouldn't fully surprise me if he decided to pack in being a star in India to come home, but shirley only a handful of teams here could pay him his worth. If McPake could entice him to the 3rd tier just through their friendship I'll be bloody impressed.

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1 minute ago, johnnydun said:

Imo, we need to start looking away from former players. It very rarely works out better the second time round. We didn't succeed with them when they were good for us.

Tbf, we succeeded as well as we have in a good while with Stewart in the team. As for your point though, I would agree in most instances.

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55 minutes ago, RossBFaeDundee said:

Tbf, we succeeded as well as we have in a good while with Stewart in the team. As for your point though, I would agree in most instances.

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From his Wiki page 🙂

 Later on that season, Moussa scored his first brace for Dundee in a 2–1 win against St Johnstone, in their first bottom six fixture.[8] On 31 January 2019, Moussa left Dundee by mutual consent.[9] Moussa has remained a cult figure at the club since his departure due to his hot start and many moments of ineptitude on the pitch thereafter, along with his winning smile.

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Moussa, more than any other single player, encapsulates everything that was wrong with the Neil McCann 'era'.

Hell bent on playing a brand of football in a league that didn't permit it, using a group of players that weren't capable of it. 

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