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This is going to end in total disaster

We can't even get a managerial appointment within a country mile of being right, there's no fucking danger these clowns are going to manage playing 4d chess with stadium shares whilst we wait for a new one to be built, having just flattened Dens. Its a fucking massive risk which will virtually kill the club if they f**k it up. Mental.

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34 minutes ago, Day of the Lords said:

This is going to end in total disaster emoji23.png

We can't even get a managerial appointment within a country mile of being right, there's no fucking danger these clowns are going to manage playing 4d chess with stadium shares whilst we wait for a new one to be built, having just flattened Dens. Its a fucking massive risk which will virtually kill the club if they f**k it up. Mental.

All good fun though😂

I know we've generally got enough negativity already so I wasn't going to comment but today's information just makes me think it's never going to happen.

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45 minutes ago, Day of the Lords said:

This is going to end in total disaster emoji23.png

We can't even get a managerial appointment within a country mile of being right, there's no fucking danger these clowns are going to manage playing 4d chess with stadium shares whilst we wait for a new one to be built, having just flattened Dens. Its a fucking massive risk which will virtually kill the club if they f**k it up. Mental.

 If it wasn't for these 'clowns' then we would have been dead and buried years ago. I get it Nelms fucked up on the managers, but, bloody hell. Give it a rest.

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Personally I hope we have a designated Main Stand which has two tiers. The thing that I hate most about grounds like The Tony Macaroni Arena is that both ends of the ground look the same. Totally loses character. Tynecastle for example I like a lot, lot less since their new stand was built. 

I think grounds develop character over time when things are built in different eras and gain affection over time etc so it's a shame we won't have that.

Something like a smaller Elland Rd however, would be class. We should build several pillars in the corner designated as the away end and make the seats face the wrong way.

 

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50 minutes ago, Day of the Lords said:

This is going to end in total disaster emoji23.png

We can't even get a managerial appointment within a country mile of being right, there's no fucking danger these clowns are going to manage playing 4d chess with stadium shares whilst we wait for a new one to be built, having just flattened Dens. Its a fucking massive risk which will virtually kill the club if they f**k it up. Mental.

I must confess the redevelopment of the Dens Park site into housing would hopefully raise a fair bit of income towards the New Campy project.

However, that's what it would be, finance towards it, not the be all and end all, plus demolition including preparing the site won't come cheaply. After all, no one is queuing around the block to redevelop the considerable vacant site of the former Norco Superstore only a stones throw away in Main Street as far as I'm aware.

I'd be considerably more comfortable if the new building project was, for example, at least 6 months into a projected 15 month build using the existing funding already secured before even a blade of grass was touched at Dens Park.

As usual, merely my opinion, however as @Day of the Lords highlights, getting it wrong is not an option.     

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2 hours ago, Bigmouth Strikes Again said:

It's all valid points, but, considering the millions they've already ploughed into the club, I've no concerns about them. If this project comes off crematorium etc (you'd know about that), then it's a money making venture, of which the stadium is a main part.

eta. I think Keyes would be over the moon with us sharing with the DAB's but that ain't happening.

Thank you.

I have to admit, my first thought here is that I remember Hamilton's owners saying much the same thing when they left Douglas Park. If I was a Dundee fan I'd want to see spades in the ground before moving out of Dens. In an ideal world Dundee would redevelop Dens, but costs and general location likely rules that out, but would be fantastic if you guys made a really neat ground that was fully enclosed.

I don't doubt your owners genuine intent, but these things can drag a fair bit. 

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32 minutes ago, Theyellowbox said:

I don't doubt your owners genuine intent, but these things can drag a fair bit. 

I admired their candour when they said it wasn't going to be just for Dundee FC.

They've made no secret that it was to be used for a wide variety of events and that Dundee FC would be effectively tenants to the new facility.

As long as they are willing to do great things for the club and what will be a boost to the city, I'm fully behind it.

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Have the final design plans been decided or are the current designs just a draft? As it stands it looks like Dundee will be getting a dark blue version of Doncaster’s Keepmoat Stadium. Not exactly very exciting or inspiring. I think it’s important Dundee try to give this ground some character. As much as you all presumably hate Tannadice, there’s no denying its full of character with some of the stands being two tiered, different shapes, sizes etc. A two tiered main stand and a safe standing “new derry” behind one of the goals would be good.

Keepmoat Stadium:

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The Visma Arena, Sweden is a good example of a small stadium (12,000 capacity) which manages to incorporate two tiers.

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14 hours ago, Day of the Lords said:

This is going to end in total disaster emoji23.png

We can't even get a managerial appointment within a country mile of being right, there's no fucking danger these clowns are going to manage playing 4d chess with stadium shares whilst we wait for a new one to be built, having just flattened Dens. Its a fucking massive risk which will virtually kill the club if they f**k it up. Mental.

To be fair, they're business people so I'd expect them to be more on the ball with business stuff than appointing football managers

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14 minutes ago, jamamafegan said:

Have the final design plans been decided or are the current designs just a draft? As it stands it looks like Dundee will be getting a dark blue version of Doncaster’s Keepmoat Stadium. Not exactly very exciting or inspiring. I think it’s important Dundee try to give this ground some character. As much as you all presumably hate Tannadice, there’s no denying its full of character with some of the stands being two tiered, different shapes, sizes etc. A two tiered main stand and a safe standing “new derry” behind one of the goals would be good.

Keepmoat Stadium:

IMG_8698.jpg

The Visma Arena, Sweden is a good example of a small stadium (12,000 capacity) which manages to incorporate two tiers.

IMG_8699.jpg

It's apparently going to be based on Rotherham's stadium:

 

Rotherham United FC: New York Stadium Guide | English Grounds | Football- Stadiums.co.uk

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16 minutes ago, jamamafegan said:

As much as you all presumably hate Tannadice, there’s no denying its full of character with some of the stands being two tiered, different shapes, sizes etc.

 

Full of character is not the first thing that comes to mind when I think of Tannadice

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18 minutes ago, hk blues said:

To be fair, they're business people so I'd expect them to be more on the ball with business stuff than appointing football managers

We have had plenty "business people" over the years who have ran our club into the ground. Local and non local . Don't blame anyone for being shit scared of all this happening and ongoing 

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1 minute ago, Robin.Hood said:

We have had plenty "business people" over the years who have ran our club into the ground. Local and non local . Don't blame anyone for being shit scared of all this happening and ongoing 

That wasn't my point - I wouldn't judge their business acumen purely based on their piss poor managerial recruitment

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3 minutes ago, hk blues said:

That wasn't my point - I wouldn't judge their business acumen purely based on their piss poor managerial recruitment

Surely as business men. "Making money" they would then find people who would then make these decisions for them. Whatever way you want to look at it recruitment has been a disgrace for the most part since they have been in charge. 

Has progression or anything happened over the years since they have been in charge ? Right now no I don't believe so. Apart from not being in administration again that's been a bonus. 

Again more paper talk of the stadium and whatever. Until things actual happen then start believing in something.  

 

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38 minutes ago, Robin.Hood said:

Surely as business men. "Making money" they would then find people who would then make these decisions for them. Whatever way you want to look at it recruitment has been a disgrace for the most part since they have been in charge. 

Has progression or anything happened over the years since they have been in charge ? Right now no I don't believe so. Apart from not being in administration again that's been a bonus. 

Again more paper talk of the stadium and whatever. Until things actual happen then start believing in something.  

 

Well, we've been a predominantly Premier League team throughout their time in charge. That can't be said for most of our previous owners in my lifetime.

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