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[RossDee01 4,007]

Again....

What were we supposed to do, tie him down to a contract for life? Not much a club can do if a player doesn’t want to extend their contract.

[RossDee01 4,007]

Because Hendry is shite, and the other three were quality. 

Hendry is absolutely not shite.

[RossBFaeDundee 1,625]

Supposedly getting around £30,000 for the pleasure of prime time TV, or roughly 0.6 Glen Kamaras. Worth it for the probable ticket sales deficit?

[Spikethedee 519]

The both BBC and our webpage has the kick off as being at 7:20 on Saturday night, surely that can't be right???

[Yenitit 1,795]

2 hours ago, RandomGuy. said:

Because Hendry is shite, and the other three were quality. 

I’ll disagree about Hendry. A huge part of our game plan was built through his ability on the ball. Going to Celtic has appeared to ruin him. Hardly played any 1st team football to being thrown in at the deep end at right back in the Champions League. Between that and the Celtic fans blaming him for just about everything and slaughtering him on social media has I’d imagine totally ruined the guy’s confidence. Hopefully he sees out his contact at Celtic that sets him up for life as a get it up them to those who have slaughtered him. 

Edited December 3, 2019 by Yenitit

[G_Man1985 4,438]

Hendry was our highest ever fee wee received for a player or was it Douglas to Celtic?

[Bigmouth Strikes Again 9,632]

12 minutes ago, G_Man1985 said:

Hendry was our highest ever fee wee received for a player or was it Douglas to Celtic?

Hendry by half a million, I think.

[Ludo*1 6,507]

3 hours ago, RandomGuy. said:

Because Hendry is shite, and the other three were quality. 

Hendry was brilliant for us. Deserved his move. Confidence has been shot to pieces after an initial dodgy spell at Celtic and doesn't look like he'll get a chance to redeem himself. He'd easily slot in for a team wanting a ball playing CH at most clubs in Scotland.

He was considerably better for us than say Declan Gallagher, who played for us at a similar stage of his career.

[Yenitit 1,795]

Stopped reading Jack Hamilton’s interview in tonight’s Tele at “he’s been excellent all season” when describing Forster.  Must think our heads zip up the back. 

[DeeTillEhDeh 4,176]

No sell-on clause for Dundee if Glen Kamara leaves Rangers https://t.co/HZoyKKcpRY https://t.co/l6fzwc03Mh

I am for one shocked.

I'm not.

[Granny Danger 12,647]

1 hour ago, Yenitit said:

Stopped reading Jack Hamilton’s interview in tonight’s Tele at “he’s been excellent all season” when describing Forster.  Must think our heads zip up the back. 

Aye he should have been honest and said he was shite.

[Spikethedee 519]

2 hours ago, Ludo*1 said:

Hendry was brilliant for us. Deserved his move. Confidence has been shot to pieces after an initial dodgy spell at Celtic and doesn't look like he'll get a chance to redeem himself. He'd easily slot in for a team wanting a ball playing CH at most clubs in Scotland.

He was considerably better for us than say Declan Gallagher, who played for us at a similar stage of his career.

If I were in charge at Aberdeen, I’d  be asking Celtic to take McKenna for Hendry and a million or so, as he has been so highly rated during the last wee while. Would take Hendry over him every day.

[Shadow Play 1,867]

5 hours ago, RossDee01 said:

What were we supposed to do, tie him down to a contract for life? Not much a club can do if a player doesn’t want to extend their contract.

I obviously don’t know the finances of our club but I think accepting £50k for Kamara was short sighted.  By allowing one of our best players of the last 25 years plus to leave for so little it sends out a message to all future players, agents and clubs that Dundee will be easy to deal with if a player is nearing the end of their contract.

We could have told Kamara, his agent and Rangers that we would categorically not accept a deal in January without a sell on clause.  We could have then let it be known that if no agreement was made and Kamara did stay on to complete his contract he would not play another game for us.

Would Kamara and Rangers run the risk of Kamara effectively being out of the game for the rest of the season?  I don’t know.  

We will never know because Nelms thought it was more important that Kamara was sold so that McIntyre could have more money to invest in his squad.  Without the anticipated £50k from Kamara maybe Nelms knew there wasn’t enough money to sign Davies.

I am perfectly willing to accept I may be completely wrong about all this but I’m afraid Nelms does not fill me with confidence he is best suited to negotiating contracts and deals.

 

[Bigmouth Strikes Again 9,632]

7 minutes ago, Spikethedee said:

If I were in charge at Aberdeen, I’d  be asking Celtic to take McKenna for Hendry and a million or so, as he has been so highly rated during the last wee while. Would take Hendry over him every day.

Good shout, no point the sheep signing him though, McInnes would have him on the left wing.

[D TOTAL 128]

When Celtic signed Hendry they should have loaned him back to ya for the rest of the season as he was still developing and having first team football, fortunately for both Celtic and Hendry he is still young enough to A. Improve as a player B. Be shifted on by Celtic for a nominal fee for anyone willing to take a punt?

[D TOTAL 128]

Does anyone else remember when we were apparently inundated with cv’s from all over the world before Nelms just walked to the window and shouted “Oi, JAMESY!!! YOU ALRIGHT BEING TO GAFFER??”

[LM_0803 16]

I’ll be absolutely raging if we lose Johnson.

Hamilton

Kerr
Meetings (if fit)
McGhee
Marshall (if fit)

McPake
McGowan
Dorrans
McDaid

Johnson
Hemmings

Forster needs binned.
Toss up between McGowan and Byrne.
Likewise with McPake and Todd.

Would rather go with Todd as McPake doesn't have a future at the club and hasn't played at all since he joined.

Has to start Johnson, and Forster has to be dropped after Saturday. Qots did the quickest thing they could do to score a second goal at the weekend, and that was to kick it straight to Forster. Absolute donkey.

Feel McGhee has been our best performing and most consistent CB, yet is being dragged down to the level of Meekings and Forster.

We badly need to sign a competent CB in January, aswell as a LB.

Mackie is pish, and I'm glad people are starting to see what I've been saying since he joined. A tap in against a pish alloa team isn't going to change the fact he's shite, contrary to what some people said at the time, about putting "solid shifts in".

Less said about Byrne the better. I've wasted too much of my time speaking about him. Just shite. Robertson should be playing every week imo.

[Shadow Play 1,867]

10 minutes ago, D TOTAL said:

Does anyone else remember when we were apparently inundated with cv’s from all over the world before Nelms just walked to the window and shouted “Oi, JAMESY!!! YOU ALRIGHT BEING TO GAFFER??”

How very dare you DTotal.  Nelms said something to the effect that he carried out a significant review of qualities he was looking for in the new manager (after the debacle of the McIntyre appointment) and that McPake was the outstanding candidate.

Then again, Nelms also said that prior to deciding McIntyre / Dodds was the correct appointment he sounded out a number of Dundee minded people to see if they thought the appointment could be a problem and that none of the people he spoke to thought it would be.  Strangely enough every Dundee fan I spoke to thought it would be a problem.

 

[DieDee 60]

7 hours ago, Ludo*1 said:

It's the nature of the size of club we are. Large part of luck plays a part. We were in a strong position with Jack Hendry and got good money for him.

We can gamble with 3 year deals and get burned more often than not for the odd Jack Hendry situation or we can be more cautious and hand out a 2 year deal like we did with Kamara. If the player has a fantastic first season and doesn't want to extend, time is of the essence and as far as I'm aware, no bids were put forward that summer.

Even looking across the road - They've been burned plenty. GMS was worth more than the £250,000 they got for example.

When Kamara first played for us he wasn't great, not surprisingly with his lack of first team football. He then had a spell when he was improving drastically but was well under the radar of other clubs. That was the point we should have been offering a new contract. As usual we left it way too late and then there was too much speculation for any offer we were making to match the rumours 

[Fifespud 3,481]

Mackie is pish, and I'm glad people are starting to see what I've been saying since he joined. A tap in against a pish alloa team isn't going to change the fact he's shite, contrary to what some people said at the time, about putting "solid shifts in".

He has a couple of half decent spells in games playing left midfield but I can’t remember a single poster who suggested he was anything other than absolute pish at left back.