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17 minutes ago, peternapper said:

Have Dundee issued a full list of retained/released players yet?

We've released our punt list but no comment on the other half.

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1 hour ago, Dundee-FC92 said:

I wonder if any other club would be treating an attacking midfielder as a club legend with 21 goals over 300+ games and nine years. It works out a goal every fourteen+  games.

Thank you.

He was absolutely stinking in a lot of games and shouting at the other players and mouthing off in the press only gets you so much slack. Can't help liking him though as at times he could come up with the goods and there are very few that will get 300 apps for us. The amount of rubbish players he played with over 10 years probably heightens his reputation in comparison. Was one of the first to take a wage cut during covid I think.

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28 minutes ago, Ludo*1 said:

We've released our punt list but no comment on the other half.

Would not think he would be pushing for a place with you next season but wondered what the future held for Jack Wilkie, gradually got better & better for us last season & won our young player of the season. Whatever happens would wish him sucess in the future.

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1 hour ago, Dundee-FC92 said:

I wonder if any other club would be treating an attacking midfielder as a club legend with 21 goals over 300+ games and nine years. It works out a goal every fourteen+  games.

Thank you.

A huge part of the problem in and of itself. I think he was misused by successive managers, especially so when he was repeatedly asked to play out on the left in a 4-2-3-1 and 4-3-3. Telling that despite that he always managed to find a route back into the side whenever he was out of it and our results were better with him on the park than not.

Club legend? No, not for me, but still worthy of respect and gratitude considering the games played, length of service, and the consistency given that so many others have come and gone over that same time period.

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Just read on the Tele’s twitter feed that the dabs are only getting a parachute payment of 300k next season and their wage bill is £5.9m, shame. 
 

A quick look on their thread here and they’re looking to pay players off 🥴

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14 minutes ago, Yenitit said:

Just read on the Tele’s twitter feed that the dabs are only getting a parachute payment of 300k next season and their wage bill is £5.9m, shame. 
 

A quick look on their thread here and they’re looking to pay players off 🥴

I'd be more worried about paying to keep players. They need to trim the fat fast to keep costs down but not too much to end up rooted in the championship or worse going full Falkirk.

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32 minutes ago, Crawford said:

I'd be more worried about paying to keep players. They need to trim the fat fast to keep costs down but not too much to end up rooted in the championship or worse going full Falkirk.

Where do you even start with that wage bill. 

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Out of interest, if not Gowser, who is the last club legend we ever had? 
 

I thought we were usually better when he was in the team, he played under some shitey managers, in shitey formations and with a fair few shitey colleagues. 
 

We won’t see too many more like him, that’s for sure. 

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2 hours ago, Peadar BigDinnerO'Driscoll said:

He was absolutely stinking in a lot of games and shouting at the other players and mouthing off in the press only gets you so much slack. Can't help liking him though as at times he could come up with the goods and there are very few that will get 300 apps for us. The amount of rubbish players he played with over 10 years probably heightens his reputation in comparison. Was one of the first to take a wage cut during covid I think.

Don't get me wrong I don't mind Gowser that much and he was never the biggest problem over the years. He deserves thanks for his years at the club doing his best and giving us some great moments. My point is just that he shouldve been binned years ago and taking away his character he was slap bang average at best over his tenure at Dens.

You're right he's had to put up with alot of terrible players such as Kerr around him. If anyone's watching Partick tonight and can see McMillans performance it's scary what we need to put up with.

Thank you.

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12 minutes ago, Fifespud said:

Out of interest, if not Gowser, who is the last club legend we ever had? 
 

I thought we were usually better when he was in the team, he played under some shitey managers, in shitey formations and with a fair few shitey colleagues. 
 

We won’t see too many more like him, that’s for sure. 

Rab Douglas?

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6 minutes ago, K.T said:

Rab Douglas?

Good shout.

Tend to forget that he came back to the club for a second spell. 

Difficult to draw a line between 'club legend' and 'cult hero', because I'd definitely put Gary Harkins in the later if not the former, but other than that I think you have to go back to Nemsadze because CC33 is really more 'cult hero' territory for me given he was only at Dens for about 5 months or something. Actually, on 2nd thoughts I'd argue Harkins does qualify as a legend. Three spells, the whole -25 points season, so many memorable moments, goals, and performances. So aye, GGH.

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33 minutes ago, Fifespud said:

Out of interest, if not Gowser, who is the last club legend we ever had? 
 

I thought we were usually better when he was in the team, he played under some shitey managers, in shitey formations and with a fair few shitey colleagues. 
 

We won’t see too many more like him, that’s for sure. 

GGH

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