hk blues Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 1 hour ago, Shadow Play said: To keep this brief, there would be obvious cost savings. There would also likely be a revenue increase both in terms of crowds and sponsorship, particularly over the medium to long term. Again, I would wish to stress I am not advocating a merger. I am merely pointing out any possible financial rationale behind a merger. Agreed. But... In business in general most mergers fail and often fail to deliver the projected cost savings and increased revenues. Maybe over optimism in selling the plan to shareholders which may not be as much of an issue in our respective situations. I would find it hard to argue that from the outside a merger looks like a plan, but we're not on the outside and I don't see much appetite for one from either set of fans. It would take a brave man with a big set of baws to ignore his customers' sentiments. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hk blues Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 2 minutes ago, ArabFC said: Even if you take the view that one club would have more fans than either of the existing, you'll certainly have less than you do from the two collectively. So revenue (be that sponsorship, TV rights, ticket and merchandise sales) is down, not up. It might be up pro rata but you've got two owners. Is one of them making a profit by selling up? I think not. You can try to claim reduce costs, but the new club owner is straight back into the same game. A slightly bigger fanbase - if you believe that would happen - demands the better players that come with any increase in revenue you believe might occur. Scottish fitba will never ever make anybody any money. Combining two clubs into one ain't going to change that. A lot to pick fault with but here goes - Aye, but you'd have more revenue as one merged entity than as one unmerged entity but with the same cost base. I'm confused about the 2 owners thing - there would be one owner i.e. the merged entity. As for paying higher salaries to better players - bring it fucking on! Yep, folk don't make money out of Scottish football but they continue to give it a go. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Play Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 41 minutes ago, hk blues said: Agreed. But... In business in general most mergers fail and often fail to deliver the projected cost savings and increased revenues. Maybe over optimism in selling the plan to shareholders which may not be as much of an issue in our respective situations. I would find it hard to argue that from the outside a merger looks like a plan, but we're not on the outside and I don't see much appetite for one from either set of fans. It would take a brave man with a big set of baws to ignore his customers' sentiments. Agreed on the highlighted point. I had a significant of Norwich Union shares when they merged with Commercial General to form CGNU (later Aviva). Not quite the return I was hoping for 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RawB93 Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 1 hour ago, hk blues said: It would take a silly man with a tiny chode to ignore his customers' sentiments. Ftfy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Charming Man Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 (edited) Andy Geddes 1959 - 2022 Cultured player for whom recurring injuries curtailed his time at Dens Park. Mainly remember him from our 1st Division promotion season. RIP my good man. (Andy's death was posted on "thedarkblues" website on Saturday evening, however only today was it posted on the Clubs official site). Edited March 22, 2022 by This Charming Man 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alert Mongoose Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 On 22/03/2022 at 07:30, Crawford said: Ever gone half's on a taxi? That but much bigger numbers. That seems to only work out well for the first person out of the taxi... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnydun Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 21 minutes ago, Alert Mongoose said: That seems to only work out well for the first person out of the taxi... The only winner in this scenario is Bobby Mann. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fifespud Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 That seems to only work out well for the first person out of the taxi...That would probably apply in the football scenario too. The first owner out has half his arsehole ripped, a wee bit sore but it’s a stop loss, and he’ll get over it. The remaining owner gets the full reaming. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin.Hood Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 I dont know this answer but who are the two biggest teams to have ever joined together ? And I don't mean sharing stadiums, as in merged to be one club. Also what is everyone's thoughts about bringing a drum into the home section? Are fans ( especially those in that stand) of a drum being used. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieDee Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 9 minutes ago, Robin.Hood said: I dont know this answer but who are the two biggest teams to have ever joined together ? And I don't mean sharing stadiums, as in merged to be one club. Also what is everyone's thoughts about bringing a drum into the home section? Are fans ( especially those in that stand) of a drum being used. Don't know but my guess would be PSG merging Paris FC and Stade Saint-Germain. As for drums, can't efn stand them 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eednud Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 23 minutes ago, Robin.Hood said: I dont know this answer but who are the two biggest teams to have ever joined together ? East End and Our Boys. 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigmouth Strikes Again Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fifespud Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 Yeah, got the email. I’ve signed it, think it’s pretty measured and fair. It’s ever decreasing circles at the moment and when committed folks like us on P and B are losing faith it can’t go on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boo Khaki Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 Some interesting names amongst the signees 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RawB93 Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 577. Johnnydun, Top Poster, Pie & Bovril, DUNDEE 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Girth Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 2 hours ago, Bigmouth Strikes Again said: Signed. Cheers Biggie. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dee Bliss Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 5 hours ago, Robin.Hood said: I dont know this answer but who are the two biggest teams to have ever joined together ? And I don't mean sharing stadiums, as in merged to be one club. Also what is everyone's thoughts about bringing a drum into the home section? Are fans ( especially those in that stand) of a drum being used. Our Boys and East End. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derry Alli Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 Greg Stewart to Queens Park. lawl. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RawB93 Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 9 minutes ago, Mr. Alli said: Greg Stewart to Queens Park. lawl. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin.Hood Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 12 minutes ago, Mr. Alli said: Greg Stewart to Queens Park. lawl. Guessing that's following Owen Coyle . Meh 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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