johnnydun Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 17 minutes ago, Day of the Lords said: Which begs the question, what are we doing loaning him? It was maybe set up to help all parties, Celtic didn't want him, Griffiths maybe wanted out from the stress of Glasgow for a while, gets to be close to his kids, play football again regularly, McPake gets a 'goal scorer'. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Derry Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 I don't normally do this, but if anyone who thinks Leigh is in the wrong wants a physical fight, I'm your man. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valentino Bolognese Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 Just now, Yenitit said: You should’ve just stopped before you had a thought You're right. The statement cleared it up, he only intended to put it safely out of harm's way. As I've said, interested to see what action's taken if any. Nobody comes out of this looking good and I do hope they young lads don't bring the pyros to Hampden. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dee Bliss Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 4 minutes ago, Valentino Bolognese said: You're right. The statement cleared it up, he only intended to put it safely out of harm's way. As I've said, interested to see what action's taken if any. Nobody comes out of this looking good and I do hope they young lads don't bring the pyros to Hampden. I’m glad he booted it in the away end. If only he could’ve kicked the other 2 flares as far back as well that would’ve been braw. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mizfit Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 As if things haven’t been mad enough, the Alba party supporters are now involved. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valentino Bolognese Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 8 minutes ago, johnnydun said: It was maybe set up to help all parties, Celtic didn't want him, Griffiths maybe wanted out from the stress of Glasgow for a while, gets to be close to his kids, play football again regularly, McPake gets a 'goal scorer'. In his post match last night he said 'Leigh's a proven goal scorer' as part of his 'it will all come good' routine, suggesting he's no thoughts of dropping him. He also talked about the Championship. A lot. Stuff like 'you can get away with that in the championship', 'it's a different level from the championship'. It was every other sentence. Sounded like his head's still a division below where the team's playing, was a bit odd. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orbix Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 3 minutes ago, Valentino Bolognese said: In his post match last night he said 'Leigh's a proven goal scorer' as part of his 'it will all come good' routine, suggesting he's no thoughts of dropping him. He also talked about the Championship. A lot. Stuff like 'you can get away with that in the championship', 'it's a different level from the championship'. It was every other sentence. Sounded like his head's still a division below where the team's playing, was a bit odd. Nothing wrong with preparing for next season 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Derry Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 Fingers crossed St Johnstone fans get banned from the next few fixtures. Throwing explosive devices onto the pitch and endangering the lives of players is unacceptable. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnydun Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 Images of the Perth young team responsible coming to light, caught with flares.... Spoiler 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dee Bliss Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 Fantastic statement from the club and exactly what happened. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RossDee01 Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 47 minutes ago, johnnydun said: I know and I think this is what's making it worse for him. His head seems to be elsewhere altogether, getting the abuse constantly in the last 2 games with the worst game yet to come, this latest incident, along with the clear downward spiral of fitness and performance, throw in the previous mental health issues. I think his mental health is in real danger. Surely he won’t be involved on Saturday? I think the club have a responsibility to protect LG and I honestly don’t think Saturday would be a safe environment for him. Rangers fans can’t be trusted to ask semi responsibly or with a single ounce of dignity. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Alert Mongoose Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 Let’s look at the evidence here. I present you with Mr Griffith’s last five attempts at shooting at a target. None of them even came close. I move to revoke the case, m’lud. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnydun Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 2 minutes ago, Alert Mongoose said: Let’s look at the evidence here. I present you with Mr Griffith’s last five attempts at shooting at a target. None of them even came close. I move to revoke the case, m’lud. Gio! Gio! Gio! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theyellowbox Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 1 hour ago, johnnydun said: I know and I think this is what's making it worse for him. His head seems to be elsewhere altogether, getting the abuse constantly in the last 2 games with the worst game yet to come, this latest incident, along with the clear downward spiral of fitness and performance, throw in the previous mental health issues. I think his mental health is in real danger. Totally agree with this. I don't like Leigh Griffiths and obviously what he does off the pitch is his concern and his actions to own, but I think it is clear he is needing some help. Kicking the flare is not something that would on its own suggest a problem, but on top of other things, it's maybe an indicator. If the people closest to him or who have a vested interest in his wellbeing wanted to get him better, they need to step up. Clearly different circumstances and people, but kind of has shades of Gascoigne. Folk loved the stupid stuff and the character until it became really obvious there was serious problems. I think the same might be true here. I wonder whether McPake is the right kind of manager for him. Maybe he needs more of a mentor/father figure than a mate. On the pitch, while I don't think he played well, there is flashes there of the player he can be. His movement is still good, so if Dundee can get him sorted off the pitch, there is huge potential rewards in it. With my Saints hat on, loved to see him spiral. Away from football, a shame to see his decline and struggles. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJF Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 21 minutes ago, RossDee01 said: Surely he won’t be involved on Saturday? I think the club have a responsibility to protect LG and I honestly don’t think Saturday would be a safe environment for him. Rangers fans can’t be trusted to ask semi responsibly or with a single ounce of dignity. What are you expecting to be chanted at him vs Rangers that hasn't already been in his previous matches? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Problemo Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 Some of the responses on here are mortifying, there isn’t a justification for Griffiths doing what he did. Does he need support? Yes, most likely - but Dundee going along with his accidental story is not remotely helping him. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 1 hour ago, johnnydun said: I know and I think this is what's making it worse for him. His head seems to be elsewhere altogether, getting the abuse constantly in the last 2 games with the worst game yet to come, this latest incident, along with the clear downward spiral of fitness and performance, throw in the previous mental health issues. I think his mental health is in real danger. He's fucked. You could see he was gone in the warm up and nothing during the match changed. Just someone who doesn't want to be a on a football pitch or in that environment at all. Absolutely no idea why Dundee bothered loaning him when anyone with a brain could predict what was coming his way and how he'd react. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RossDee01 Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 4 minutes ago, AJF said: What are you expecting to be chanted at him vs Rangers that hasn't already been in his previous matches? Something sectarian 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJF Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 1 minute ago, RossDee01 said: Something sectarian So you mean to tell me your comment was not to do with his off-field issues? And that if he hadn't gotten himself in bother a few weeks ago you'd still be advocating that he was "protected" and not included vs Rangers? Aye, ok. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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