cooshedder Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 Thanks 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludo*1 Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 1 minute ago, Bigmouth Strikes Again said: I was thinking more Debenhams. Got some sad news for you 'Spud... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fifespud Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 The lols [emoji23] [emoji23][emoji23] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stu2910 Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 We were voting no because there weren’t enough guarantees to help the clubs that would suffer from relegation.We are now voting yes after confirming that other discussions will now take place to help those clubs, with more information to come.The most likely of the options to pass would see us at least have an easier go at promotion next year, while also saving a number of clubs from relegation.If the SPFL have broken their own rules to allow this to happen then I really don’t understand how Nelms and the club in general are now the most hated people in the country, even amongst our own support. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravabelli Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 I was slated on here for saying Nelms was slowly killing this club, I Stick by that. I’m not sure what he’s qualified as but he seems to make a hash of most things he has a say in 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Play Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 2 minutes ago, stu2910 said: We were voting no because there weren’t enough guarantees to help the clubs that would suffer from relegation. We are now voting yes after confirming that other discussions will now take place to help those clubs, with more information to come. The most likely of the options to pass would see us at least have an easier go at promotion next year, while also saving a number of clubs from relegation. If the SPFL have broken their own rules to allow this to happen then I really don’t understand how Nelms and the club in general are now the most hated people in the country, even amongst our own support. Genuine question. Why should we care about other clubs? Did any of them care when we were handed a 25 point deduction? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnAnInginAneAnA Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 12 minutes ago, Shadow Play said: Genuine question. Why should we care about other clubs? Did any of them care when we were handed a 25 point deduction? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St3vie Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 12 minutes ago, stu2910 said: We were voting no because there weren’t enough guarantees to help the clubs that would suffer from relegation. We are now voting yes after confirming that other discussions will now take place to help those clubs, with more information to come. The most likely of the options to pass would see us at least have an easier go at promotion next year, while also saving a number of clubs from relegation. If the SPFL have broken their own rules to allow this to happen then I really don’t understand how Nelms and the club in general are now the most hated people in the country, even amongst our own support. If I remember rightly, the three clubs in the Championship that were voting no to this were ICT, Thistle and Dundee From what I am reading now, after Dundee have now voted yes, there will be league reconstruction yes, but Thistle and Stranraer are now relegated Want to tell me how that's helping the clubs you were originally trying to help by voting no?? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellaboz Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 Genuine question. Why should we care about other clubs? Did any of them care when we were handed a 25 point deduction?Without other clubs there is no league. Also, what did you want other clubs to do? Aye Dundee, we'll take a few of those deducted points boys, we'll help ye out! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stu2910 Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 Genuine question. Why should we care about other clubs? Did any of them care when we were handed a 25 point deduction?Don’t know that many were on our side in the decision, but Falkirk and...Stirling Albion (?) both helped us out financially in the aftermath.I care about other clubs because I would never want another fan to go through what we’ve been through. It’s horrible to not know if the club you grew up watching will still be there next season and I wouldn’t inflict it on anyone.The biggest problem with the game in Scotland isn’t that we can’t get enough money from outside sources to compete with other leagues, its the endless short term thinking and looking out for ourselves regardless of the impact on the wider game.“They hit me so I’ll hit them harder” is great fun for the banter, but eventually someone loses permanently and that doesn’t help anyone. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derry Alli Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 11 minutes ago, Stellaboz said: 24 minutes ago, Shadow Play said: Without other clubs there is no league. Fucking Nelms We could have got up without playing a game!!1! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weetoonlad Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 52 minutes ago, Dundee-FC92 said: They're our club, not his. Years of fucking shite under the c**t. Get him to f**k Thank you. Full of promises and all you have to show is Religation. No new stadium. No promotion. No future Sad 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stu2910 Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 If I remember rightly, the three clubs in the Championship that were voting no to this were ICT, Thistle and Dundee From what I am reading now, after Dundee have now voted yes, there will be league reconstruction yes, but Thistle and Stranraer are now relegated Want to tell me how that's helping the clubs you were originally trying to help by voting no??Better distribution of money and higher chance of reconstruction.In theory anyway. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stu2910 Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 Full of promises and all you have to show is Religation. No new stadium. No promotion. No future Sad In fairness he also saw us promoted first. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Play Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 8 minutes ago, Stellaboz said: 21 minutes ago, Shadow Play said: Genuine question. Why should we care about other clubs? Did any of them care when we were handed a 25 point deduction? Without other clubs there is no league. Also, what did you want other clubs to do? Aye Dundee, we'll take a few of those deducted points boys, we'll help ye out! You raise two points there. 1) I agree that without other clubs there is no league. That is why Sky and BT tolerate clubs other than Rangers and Celtic (let’s be honest that is why it is mostly games involving Rangers and Celtic that are shown) Yes clubs may have gone to the wall but enough would have survived. Indeed just about all clubs would have survived if they had all spent some of their budget on a business interruption insurance policy, rather than ploughing well over 50% of their budget into players wages. 2) Other clubs could have made it clear to the league the punishment was too harsh. Let’s be frank here. The other teams in the league were delighted that Dundee were deducted 25 points and were, if truth be told, wishing more points were deducted to ease the pressure of relegation from themselves. The above points I have raised are not nice to acknowledge but I think they are pretty accurate. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weetoonlad Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 We will see in the Coming days what Dundee has brokered with the spfl 14 12 12 12 Long way to go on this one Guys am sure some clubs will be already speaking to their legal team 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weetoonlad Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, stu2910 said: In fairness he also saw us promoted first. Fair comment but over the last 18months it's been down hill. I can't see Dundee Fc back in the top flight for some time Edited April 15, 2020 by weetoonlad 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stu2910 Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 Fair comment but over the last 18months it's been down hill. I can't see Dundee Fc back in the top flight for some time It has and you may be right, but let’s face it it hardly makes him a terrible Dundee director. Since the 70s that’s just what we do. What has changed is we are a million times more stable as a club than in most of that time, I’ll take that for now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Play Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 1 minute ago, weetoonlad said: We will see in the Coming days what Dundee has brokered with the spfl 14 12 12 12 Long way to go on this one Guys am sure some clubs will be already speaking to their legal team Why not go for leagues of 2-10-10-10-10? That way BT and Sky get all the Old Firm games they can ever wish for and I don’t have to explain to my kids several times a season that (at best) religion and politics should have nothing to do with Scottish football 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludo*1 Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 3 minutes ago, stu2910 said: It has and you may be right, but let’s face it it hardly makes him a terrible Dundee director. Since the 70s that’s just what we do. What has changed is we are a million times more stable as a club than in most of that time, I’ll take that for now. This, so much this. Unlikely, but McPake still has a chance to be a success for Dundee. If he's not, let Strachan pick the next manager, unless he picks Mark McGhee, then let us pick the new manager by poll. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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