RossBFaeDundee Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 Team just released a celebratory article about Gowser's 200th cap, and in it McPake mentions that Gowser was questionable up until the day, as his partner just had their baby on Tuesday and he was off course focused on that for the majority of the week. Managed for Saturday, and got 73 minutes out of him, despite being absolutely knackered. Makes sense of his subbing now, and gives Jazza slightly more wiggle room imo. Also, considering he was easily my MOTM for that game, it just shows how good and loyal a player he is. Here's to many more! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SweeperDee Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 Baby was poorly as well, testament to Gowser tbh. Most other players would have probably shy’d away from playing in those circumstances. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dee Bliss Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 1 hour ago, RossBFaeDundee said: Managed for Saturday, and got 73 minutes out of him, despite being absolutely knackered. Makes sense of his subbing now, and gives Jazza slightly more wiggle room imo. Also, considering he was easily my MOTM for that game, it just shows how good and loyal a player he is. Here's to many more! I see where you’re coming from but I think the opposite. It makes the substitution of Byrne even more farcical with doubts regarding Gowser lasting the game and its still inexcusable to bring on a winger and move another winger into Gowser’s position as his replacement when a change of formation or better suited players were available. The manager needs to up his game. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derry Alli Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 f**k shagging Gowser btw. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SweeperDee Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 52 minutes ago, Dele said: f**k shagging Gowser btw. Be like a terrier running after a cat. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fifespud Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 The boys in play - come to your spiritual home Zlatan -“Napoli president Aurelio de Laurentiis says he would be interested in signing Zlatan Ibrahimovic, 38, who will become a free agent in January when his LA Galaxy contract expires. (ESPN)” 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fifespud Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 And thank f**k we’ve signed a goalie - both of our options are pish. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeodhasXD Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 Important question for Tuesday night's programme: You can only pick one - "The Dark Blues" or "The Dee" 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RossBFaeDundee Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 1 hour ago, LeodhasXD said: Important question for Tuesday night's programme: You can only pick one - "The Dark Blues" or "The Dee" Tough... but I'll go with "The Dee" 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derry Alli Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 "THE Dundee Derry Boys". Thank you. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Charming Man Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 The Famous Dark Blues. Best regards 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RossBFaeDundee Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 (edited) Y'know, I'm getting sick of having to read every week that Ness "isn't quite ready for [insert upcoming match]". Is it impossible to set a projection for his recovery, or are we just supposed to gauge when he's fit to return? Edited October 25, 2019 by RossBFaeDundee 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 I see where you’re coming from but I think the opposite. It makes the substitution of Byrne even more farcical with doubts regarding Gowser lasting the game and its still inexcusable to bring on a winger and move another winger into Gowser’s position as his replacement when a change of formation or better suited players were available. The manager needs to up his game. This.Finishing the game with 3 wingers and no defensive midfielder was always asking for trouble. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boo Khaki Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 (edited) I still think this squad is crying out for a 5/3/2 - 3/5/2 formation. I know we played the first half of the league season in this line up and got skelped by Dunfermline, but hear me out. While watching that match it was clear to me that Dunfy players had been told to let our CH's have the ball, not pressure them, flood the midfield, and wait for them to give it away in desperation. What I couldn't really understand is that both wingbacks still sat deep inside Dunfermline's half every time one of our CH's were on the ball. The net result was that we couldn't get the ball out of our own half, and were reduced to aimless punts, or giving it to a midfield player who was already under pressure and immediately lost the ball. This isn't an inherent problem with 3/5/2, the problem lay with the fact that our players apparently had no idea how to cope with Dunfermline standing off our CH's when they had the ball deep in our own half. Our wingbacks need to realise and not stray so far up the pitch, so that our midfield stretches the pitch sideline to sideline, makes it more difficult for the opponent to totally stymie our midfield, and offers easier out-balls to the CH's. 3/5/2 -5/3/2 formations work perfectly fine for teams all over the world. Dunfermline haven't suddenly stumbled upon some sort of revolutionary counter to it that renders them hopeless. Our fullbacks are not that great when playing in a four anyway, all of our better midfielders are central players, we lack any real threat in wide positions, and folk are complaining that playing a single forward is leaving them isolated, frustrated, and ineffective. When we play in a 4/4/2 our central midfield usually gets overrun and the wingers don't see the ball anyway. Playing a 3/5 formations relieves these issues. We really need to be looking at it again, not just binning it outright after a poor 45 minutes using it. The players obviously need more coaching and practice in how to utilise it and understand it though. Barring that, the problems with the side go far beyond anything that can just be attributed to poor management. It's an unbalanced squad with questionable talent deficiencies in certain areas. Only to be expected when we had to do more or less an entire rebuild job after the McIntyre farce. We need another two transfer windows at least before I think its fair to say that you can punt McPake simply because we're not top of the league. If you punt him right now, that's as much because he's NOT overachieving, which is silly considering the squad's issues. We're right about where we should be IMO, and that's based on circumstance and the squad, not because I'm 'accepting mediocrity' or any such nonsense. Folk that think we should have been walking away with this league after the last couple of seasons and managers we've had are delusional. McPake can do better, that's not in doubt, but he's a rookie manager and needs to learn from his mistakes. The reasons why we're not up at the top of the league with Hemmings sitting on 15 goals already are a lot more complex than McPake simply being a poor manager. Edited October 25, 2019 by Boo Khaki 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srw Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 So whats your 352 team then? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boo Khaki Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 48 minutes ago, srw said: So whats your 352 team then? Hamilton, Kerr, Marshall, McGhee, Forster, Meekings, Byrne, McGowan, Dorrans, Hemmings, Johnson. I'm not a fan of a couple of those players myself, I think they're below the standard we require, but that's the nature of a squad after one transfer window when you had to gut the whole thing after the previous season. They're the players I think are a priority to replace in January, but I don't see the point in naming them because others will disagree and that's not really the purpose of this post. I'd have no issue with using Nelson in place of Hemmings or Johnson, and if Ness is fit, obviously both he and Robertson are candidates for a midfield position, but Robertson is still just a wee laddie in reality, and as much as he's talented, it's not realistic to be regarding him as a full first-team squad player capable of playing 40 times this season if required. Likewise, I'm not dropping McDaid, Todd, or McPake simply because I don't rate them. They have their place, I just think they're better suited to playing in other systems. Someone always has to miss out when you can only put 11 on the pitch. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srw Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 In theory, thats a decent team. The centre of defence is a worry though, only McGhee is good enough, and as Ive moaned a million times, Meekings is a truly abysmal player. I don't care what system, formation we play, as long as we win. Hopefully McPake can start learning, and very quickly. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boo Khaki Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 21 minutes ago, srw said: In theory, thats a decent team. The centre of defence is a worry though, only McGhee is good enough, and as Ive moaned a million times, Meekings is a truly abysmal player. I don't care what system, formation we play, as long as we win. Hopefully McPake can start learning, and very quickly. Well I'm sure it'll no surprise you if I admit that yes, trying to find at least one other semi-mobile CH is a January priority for me 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 3pts against one of the top teams - would take that every day of the week. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dee Bliss Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 Just now, DeeTillEhDeh said: 3pts against one of the top teams - would take that every day of the week. Agreed. Fairly comfortable, although not particularly pretty in the 2nd half. Plenty of experience left on the park this week to see the game out. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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