All things Dundee FC

[srw]

It will be tears of an empty cock after reading that.

He is that much of an egomaniac, he will have enjoyed seeing his name so often, and will probably have several chuggs while ready, and wiping clean the screen.

[Eh Peh Skeh]

I dislike Dundee through natural footballing rivalry. 
I fucking despise both of them for reasons that go beyond competitive football matches. 

Indeed my family have both sides of the dundee divide but we wouldnt fall into the realms of the ugly twins because of a game played by 11 overpaid men and a leather ball!

[MacArab]

1 hour ago, tree house tam said:

Na, can't be arsed.  You're like that dog that's been run over and just needs put out it's misery. Just want the season to end now.

 

[Soul Arab]

2 hours ago, Twinkle said:

Been sent this so thought id share it


It is with regret that we have felt the need to put the following in writing regarding the current situation with Dundee and affairs at Dens.


As a DSA affiliated club we would like the DSA to take this matter further and provide fans with a constructive response.


I have copied in all other clubs as per your distribution list as I would think our club is not alone in these thoughts and would welcome any other opinions?


Below has been drafted following comments / thoughts / views from our members:


‘The Ferry Branch Dundee Supporters Club, as one of the largest supporters clubs within the Dundee Supporters Association (DSA), would like to express our utmost concern regarding the current situation at Dundee Football Club.

 
While we welcome the continued ownership and financial input from Tim Keyes, and wholeheartedly appreciate the initial stability this brought to football club, we have serious issues with the management of the Club on and off the pitch. 
 

● John Nelms - We commend John's enthusiasm and efforts towards the new stadium plans and fully endorse the move to a new stadium, however his decision making regarding football matters is hugely flawed. His managerial appointments have been disastrous. There is clearly a role for John on the Board but his input into football decisions should be limited at best. The Club urgently requires a proper Board comprising of individuals with a far higher calibre of football knowledge. Managerial appointments should not be made based on a farcical list compiled by Mr. Nelms with no proper interview process. 

 

● Jim McIntyre - Jim has proved to be a dreadful appointment despite being given a healthy budget to rebuild the team in January. He has lost confidence of the support, apparently the players also and now has one of the worst records of any Dundee manager, including a pathetic record breaking run of 8 defeats and counting. Even the most loyal supporters, long standing season ticket holders, are indicating they will not renew season tickets if Mr. McIntyre remains in his position. The fact Mr. Nelms has not addressed this appalling level of performance from the manager is staggering and has invoked a level of apathy and frustration within the support that is unprecedented at Dens. 

 

● Communication - Simply non-existent. Truly appalling from Mr. Nelms, the supporters have been given barely any information despite our ever more precarious position in the SPL. A half-hearted attempt at appeasement by Mr. Nelms inviting a hand picked selection of individuals to meet with him is not acceptable. 

 

● Season Tickets - Hard to imagine how badly this has been handled. Expecting fans to pay top end SPL prices for possible Championship football is quite incredible. Notwithstanding one less home game in the Championship fixtures. If the Club continues to take the support for granted, offering no communication and expecting fans to pay top prices for season tickets and admission prices then this will lead to further discontent and an unsustainably low level of sales. We understand the importance of season ticket sales, but cannot justify these prices based on the current product on display at Dens. 

 

● League Position - An utter disgrace. 1 win at Dens all season is totally unacceptable. Added to this considerably grim achievement is the 3 miserable defeats by Championship sides in the Cups this season. The lack of apparent concern at Board level is both baffling and worrying. Relegation will be catastrophic for the Club and will represent a dreadful failure to capitalise on a situation where we are the only Premiership team in the City. Mr. Nelms is fully accountable for allowing this situation to spiral out of control.

 

● Going Forward - Dundee fans are desperate to support the Club and equally desperate to help in any way we can. This has been demonstrated on many, many occasions notwithstanding incredible support during 2 periods of administration. We are a stoic support but there is a limit to what can be tolerated. The current situation, with relegation looming and a total disconnect between fans, Board and manager, cannot and will not be tolerated. 

 
Dundee Football Club is a magnificent football club with huge historic significance and a large, fantastic support. Despite our horrendous form, over the last 3years in particular, the level of support has been remarkable. Given the generous budget provided in part by Tim Keyes, there is absolutely no way this Club should be fighting relegation every season. The reason we are is due to dreadful managerial appointments.This has to change immediately. 
 
If the Club is to survive any relegation then it will once again require our fantastic fans to rally round. At present that is unlikely unless major changes are made to the structure of the Club at Board and managerial level. ‘
 
Regards

Carol 
Ferry Branch Secretary

 

[MacArab]

2 hours ago, Twinkle said:

Been sent this so thought id share it


It is with regret that we have felt the need to put the following in writing regarding the current situation with Dundee and affairs at Dens.


As a DSA affiliated club we would like the DSA to take this matter further and provide fans with a constructive response.


I have copied in all other clubs as per your distribution list as I would think our club is not alone in these thoughts and would welcome any other opinions?


Below has been drafted following comments / thoughts / views from our members:


‘The Ferry Branch Dundee Supporters Club, as one of the largest supporters clubs within the Dundee Supporters Association (DSA), would like to express our utmost concern regarding the current situation at Dundee Football Club.

 
While we welcome the continued ownership and financial input from Tim Keyes, and wholeheartedly appreciate the initial stability this brought to football club, we have serious issues with the management of the Club on and off the pitch. 
 

● John Nelms - We commend John's enthusiasm and efforts towards the new stadium plans and fully endorse the move to a new stadium, however his decision making regarding football matters is hugely flawed. His managerial appointments have been disastrous. There is clearly a role for John on the Board but his input into football decisions should be limited at best. The Club urgently requires a proper Board comprising of individuals with a far higher calibre of football knowledge. Managerial appointments should not be made based on a farcical list compiled by Mr. Nelms with no proper interview process. 

 

● Jim McIntyre - Jim has proved to be a dreadful appointment despite being given a healthy budget to rebuild the team in January. He has lost confidence of the support, apparently the players also and now has one of the worst records of any Dundee manager, including a pathetic record breaking run of 8 defeats and counting. Even the most loyal supporters, long standing season ticket holders, are indicating they will not renew season tickets if Mr. McIntyre remains in his position. The fact Mr. Nelms has not addressed this appalling level of performance from the manager is staggering and has invoked a level of apathy and frustration within the support that is unprecedented at Dens. 

 

● Communication - Simply non-existent. Truly appalling from Mr. Nelms, the supporters have been given barely any information despite our ever more precarious position in the SPL. A half-hearted attempt at appeasement by Mr. Nelms inviting a hand picked selection of individuals to meet with him is not acceptable. 

 

● Season Tickets - Hard to imagine how badly this has been handled. Expecting fans to pay top end SPL prices for possible Championship football is quite incredible. Notwithstanding one less home game in the Championship fixtures. If the Club continues to take the support for granted, offering no communication and expecting fans to pay top prices for season tickets and admission prices then this will lead to further discontent and an unsustainably low level of sales. We understand the importance of season ticket sales, but cannot justify these prices based on the current product on display at Dens. 

 

● League Position - An utter disgrace. 1 win at Dens all season is totally unacceptable. Added to this considerably grim achievement is the 3 miserable defeats by Championship sides in the Cups this season. The lack of apparent concern at Board level is both baffling and worrying. Relegation will be catastrophic for the Club and will represent a dreadful failure to capitalise on a situation where we are the only Premiership team in the City. Mr. Nelms is fully accountable for allowing this situation to spiral out of control.

 

● Going Forward - Dundee fans are desperate to support the Club and equally desperate to help in any way we can. This has been demonstrated on many, many occasions notwithstanding incredible support during 2 periods of administration. We are a stoic support but there is a limit to what can be tolerated. The current situation, with relegation looming and a total disconnect between fans, Board and manager, cannot and will not be tolerated. 

 
Dundee Football Club is a magnificent football club with huge historic significance and a large, fantastic support. Despite our horrendous form, over the last 3years in particular, the level of support has been remarkable. Given the generous budget provided in part by Tim Keyes, there is absolutely no way this Club should be fighting relegation every season. The reason we are is due to dreadful managerial appointments.This has to change immediately. 
 
If the Club is to survive any relegation then it will once again require our fantastic fans to rally round. At present that is unlikely unless major changes are made to the structure of the Club at Board and managerial level. ‘
 
Regards

Carol 
Ferry Branch Secretary

People can take the piss all they like, but the lassie puts her various points across very well imo

It gives me no pleasure to say it* but it is like gazing at a mirror into our last 4  years, and you lads are about to get flushed down the toilet just like we did.**

It doesn't matter how many Dees are represented by this supporters club,  all that matters is that one of them can articulate their mutually agreed  frustrations as to the utter clusterfuck that has become their club, and I'd be surprised if many Dees disagree with her too much. 

Not just stats,  but performances on and off the pitch speak for themselves....

Shite isn't it!

* i'm lying a bit here

** But with less points.

[Ludo*1]

Brilliant yet depressing article: https://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/alan-pattullo-no-wonder-the-dundee-fans-are-dismayed-1-4914728

[dd23]

Been sent this so thought id share it


It is with regret that we have felt the need to put the following in writing regarding the current situation with Dundee and affairs at Dens.


As a DSA affiliated club we would like the DSA to take this matter further and provide fans with a constructive response.


I have copied in all other clubs as per your distribution list as I would think our club is not alone in these thoughts and would welcome any other opinions?


Below has been drafted following comments / thoughts / views from our members:


‘The Ferry Branch Dundee Supporters Club, as one of the largest supporters clubs within the Dundee Supporters Association (DSA), would like to express our utmost concern regarding the current situation at Dundee Football Club.

 
While we welcome the continued ownership and financial input from Tim Keyes, and wholeheartedly appreciate the initial stability this brought to football club, we have serious issues with the management of the Club on and off the pitch. 
 

● John Nelms - We commend John's enthusiasm and efforts towards the new stadium plans and fully endorse the move to a new stadium, however his decision making regarding football matters is hugely flawed. His managerial appointments have been disastrous. There is clearly a role for John on the Board but his input into football decisions should be limited at best. The Club urgently requires a proper Board comprising of individuals with a far higher calibre of football knowledge. Managerial appointments should not be made based on a farcical list compiled by Mr. Nelms with no proper interview process. 

 

● Jim McIntyre - Jim has proved to be a dreadful appointment despite being given a healthy budget to rebuild the team in January. He has lost confidence of the support, apparently the players also and now has one of the worst records of any Dundee manager, including a pathetic record breaking run of 8 defeats and counting. Even the most loyal supporters, long standing season ticket holders, are indicating they will not renew season tickets if Mr. McIntyre remains in his position. The fact Mr. Nelms has not addressed this appalling level of performance from the manager is staggering and has invoked a level of apathy and frustration within the support that is unprecedented at Dens. 

 

● Communication - Simply non-existent. Truly appalling from Mr. Nelms, the supporters have been given barely any information despite our ever more precarious position in the SPL. A half-hearted attempt at appeasement by Mr. Nelms inviting a hand picked selection of individuals to meet with him is not acceptable. 

 

● Season Tickets - Hard to imagine how badly this has been handled. Expecting fans to pay top end SPL prices for possible Championship football is quite incredible. Notwithstanding one less home game in the Championship fixtures. If the Club continues to take the support for granted, offering no communication and expecting fans to pay top prices for season tickets and admission prices then this will lead to further discontent and an unsustainably low level of sales. We understand the importance of season ticket sales, but cannot justify these prices based on the current product on display at Dens. 

 

● League Position - An utter disgrace. 1 win at Dens all season is totally unacceptable. Added to this considerably grim achievement is the 3 miserable defeats by Championship sides in the Cups this season. The lack of apparent concern at Board level is both baffling and worrying. Relegation will be catastrophic for the Club and will represent a dreadful failure to capitalise on a situation where we are the only Premiership team in the City. Mr. Nelms is fully accountable for allowing this situation to spiral out of control.

 

● Going Forward - Dundee fans are desperate to support the Club and equally desperate to help in any way we can. This has been demonstrated on many, many occasions notwithstanding incredible support during 2 periods of administration. We are a stoic support but there is a limit to what can be tolerated. The current situation, with relegation looming and a total disconnect between fans, Board and manager, cannot and will not be tolerated. 

 
Dundee Football Club is a magnificent football club with huge historic significance and a large, fantastic support. Despite our horrendous form, over the last 3years in particular, the level of support has been remarkable. Given the generous budget provided in part by Tim Keyes, there is absolutely no way this Club should be fighting relegation every season. The reason we are is due to dreadful managerial appointments.This has to change immediately. 
 
If the Club is to survive any relegation then it will once again require our fantastic fans to rally round. At present that is unlikely unless major changes are made to the structure of the Club at Board and managerial level. ‘
 
Regards

Carol 
Ferry Branch Secretary

Point by point relevant and accurate. Look at the situation Kilmarnock were in before appointing SC and now.
Decent candidates were obviously out there if there was a professional process undertaken.
To appoint someone who comes as a package with a guy who the fans will never accept is incompetence bordering on negligence.
It also gives the appointed manager a get out of jail free card. He doesn't have his sidekick so his hands were tied.
Imagine one of us wandered over the Atlantic and started making decisions about the sporting progress of an American Football (not soccer) Club.
Couldn't see that working out too well.

[tree house tam]

Ooofftt, 20 odd grand for Kamara

Now that really is a fucking minter.

Sack the fucking board!

[The Saintee]

9 hours ago, Twinkle said:

Been sent this so thought id share it


It is with regret that we have felt the need to put the following in writing regarding the current situation with Dundee and affairs at Dens.


As a DSA affiliated club we would like the DSA to take this matter further and provide fans with a constructive response.


I have copied in all other clubs as per your distribution list as I would think our club is not alone in these thoughts and would welcome any other opinions?


Below has been drafted following comments / thoughts / views from our members:


‘The Ferry Branch Dundee Supporters Club, as one of the largest supporters clubs within the Dundee Supporters Association (DSA), would like to express our utmost concern regarding the current situation at Dundee Football Club.

 
While we welcome the continued ownership and financial input from Tim Keyes, and wholeheartedly appreciate the initial stability this brought to football club, we have serious issues with the management of the Club on and off the pitch. 
 

● John Nelms - We commend John's enthusiasm and efforts towards the new stadium plans and fully endorse the move to a new stadium, however his decision making regarding football matters is hugely flawed. His managerial appointments have been disastrous. There is clearly a role for John on the Board but his input into football decisions should be limited at best. The Club urgently requires a proper Board comprising of individuals with a far higher calibre of football knowledge. Managerial appointments should not be made based on a farcical list compiled by Mr. Nelms with no proper interview process. 

 

● Jim McIntyre - Jim has proved to be a dreadful appointment despite being given a healthy budget to rebuild the team in January. He has lost confidence of the support, apparently the players also and now has one of the worst records of any Dundee manager, including a pathetic record breaking run of 8 defeats and counting. Even the most loyal supporters, long standing season ticket holders, are indicating they will not renew season tickets if Mr. McIntyre remains in his position. The fact Mr. Nelms has not addressed this appalling level of performance from the manager is staggering and has invoked a level of apathy and frustration within the support that is unprecedented at Dens. 

 

● Communication - Simply non-existent. Truly appalling from Mr. Nelms, the supporters have been given barely any information despite our ever more precarious position in the SPL. A half-hearted attempt at appeasement by Mr. Nelms inviting a hand picked selection of individuals to meet with him is not acceptable. 

 

● Season Tickets - Hard to imagine how badly this has been handled. Expecting fans to pay top end SPL prices for possible Championship football is quite incredible. Notwithstanding one less home game in the Championship fixtures. If the Club continues to take the support for granted, offering no communication and expecting fans to pay top prices for season tickets and admission prices then this will lead to further discontent and an unsustainably low level of sales. We understand the importance of season ticket sales, but cannot justify these prices based on the current product on display at Dens. 

 

● League Position - An utter disgrace. 1 win at Dens all season is totally unacceptable. Added to this considerably grim achievement is the 3 miserable defeats by Championship sides in the Cups this season. The lack of apparent concern at Board level is both baffling and worrying. Relegation will be catastrophic for the Club and will represent a dreadful failure to capitalise on a situation where we are the only Premiership team in the City. Mr. Nelms is fully accountable for allowing this situation to spiral out of control.

 

● Going Forward - Dundee fans are desperate to support the Club and equally desperate to help in any way we can. This has been demonstrated on many, many occasions notwithstanding incredible support during 2 periods of administration. We are a stoic support but there is a limit to what can be tolerated. The current situation, with relegation looming and a total disconnect between fans, Board and manager, cannot and will not be tolerated. 

 
Dundee Football Club is a magnificent football club with huge historic significance and a large, fantastic support. Despite our horrendous form, over the last 3years in particular, the level of support has been remarkable. Given the generous budget provided in part by Tim Keyes, there is absolutely no way this Club should be fighting relegation every season. The reason we are is due to dreadful managerial appointments.This has to change immediately. 
 
If the Club is to survive any relegation then it will once again require our fantastic fans to rally round. At present that is unlikely unless major changes are made to the structure of the Club at Board and managerial level. ‘
 
Regards

Carol 
Ferry Branch Secretary

It's just missing a "Thank you" at the end.

[tree house tam]

48 minutes ago, The Saintee said:

It's just missing a "Thank you" at the end.

And change the Ferry to Carnoustie then add a picture of the family pet.

[Granny Danger]

On 25/04/2019 at 00:03, NEFarab said:

McIntyre not got a spot in your Hall of Fame yet? 

More to the point, has his spot in ours been confirmed?

 

[hk blues]

14 hours ago, MacArab said:

...s to the utter clusterfuck that has become their club...

 

If we are a clusterfuck now, god only knows what we have been in the past few decades!  It has been a disastrous season on the park - but overall, as a club,  have we really entered into clusterfuck territory?  I don't see it that way at all  - in fact I reckon most Dees would say we are as stable (off the park) as we've been in their lifetime.

[hk blues]

7 hours ago, tree house tam said:

Ooofftt, 20 odd grand for Kamara

Now that really is a fucking minter.

Sack the fucking board!

Better than nowt - which is what we were getting if he'd stayed until the end of the season.  It's shite but that's the way these things work nowadays.

We have plenty to complain about concerning the  Board, but the Kamara situation isn't one of them  

[Derry Alli]

I never thought I'd see the day that Dundee United fans on Pie and Bovril turned in to a mirror image of Dundee fans on Dundee Mad. 

 

[RossBFaeDundee]

Haha yep
https://www.eveningtelegraph.co.uk/fp/worst-records-at-risk-from-dark-blues-if-dreadful-form-continues/?fbclid=IwAR0sCQqGER45CI_ioWrYIR4uXXsRswsuC79l3gYrRGUpX6I65Z0kJV1OWgY

[dd23]

Better than nowt - which is what we were getting if he'd stayed until the end of the season.  It's shite but that's the way these things work nowadays.
We have plenty to complain about concerning the  Board, but the Kamara situation isn't one of them  

Don't think I agree with that to be honest. Fair enough 20k is better than 0 but staying up is a lot better than going down. Replacing Kamara with Woods must rank up there with the worst swaps in history.
As Patullo points out Woods wasn't even playing since being released by Thistle.
Jones remained at Killie and his manager was quite sure he could get a lot out of him in the interim. If as the article says Kamara would have seen out his deal then a well managed Kamara vs Woods managed by his old mate is a pretty stark contrast in the quality available to the side.

[Granny Danger]

3 hours ago, hk blues said:

If we are a clusterfuck now, god only knows what we have been in the past few decades!  It has been a disastrous season on the park - but overall, as a club,  have we really entered into clusterfuck territory?  I don't see it that way at all  - in fact I reckon most Dees would say we are as stable (off the park) as we've been in their lifetime.

If only I knew how to bookmark posts...

 

[Bigmouth Strikes Again]

2 hours ago, Granny Danger said:

If only I knew how to bookmark posts...

 

[This Charming Man]

7 hours ago, hk blues said:

We have plenty to complain about concerning the  Board, but the Kamara situation isn't one of them  

Good evening.

Just a brief comment to agree with the above posting regarding Glen Kamara.

Anyone attending the St Johnstone  home game  December 29th  should remember this young gentleman's performance which was an absolute discredit and disgrace to his so called profession.

This professional was prevented from embarrassing his employers any longer at half-time and never wore the famous dark blue again. The modern game would appear to provide disposable football clubs for the more weak minded man-child of today.

As Nathan Jones rebuilds at Stoke City he professes, talent is not enough, he requires  the work ethic and decent human beings also.

Not a bad standard to set and hopefully achieve.

Best regards.

   

Edited April 26, 2019 by This Charming Man

[Dee Bliss]

Why would Dundee be due any money to Arsenal when Kamara was a free agent. That’s as much bull as the Ferry Dark Blues only taking mini buses to games. 

Edited April 26, 2019 by Yenitit