Jacksgranda Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 Today's the 75th Anniversary of the start of the Second World War (for us, anyway, the Poles started two days earlier), but there doesn't seem to be any official acknowledgement of it. Is it because this year also the 100th Anniversary of the commencement of The Great War, and the Second War is being sidelined? Actually it was yesterday! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 There was brief acknowledgement of it but I suppose WWI anniversary detracts from it. That and there weren't any real major military operations between the Allies (or UK and France, at least) and Nazi Germany until 1940. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tongue_tied_danny Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 Today's the 75th Anniversary of the start of the Second World War (for us, anyway, the Poles started two days earlier), but there doesn't seem to be any official acknowledgement of it. Is it because this year also the 100th Anniversary of the commencement of The Great War, and the Second War is being sidelined? Actually it was yesterday! Japan and China had already been fighting for a couple of years. Why is this never seen as part of WW2? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enigma Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 Japan and China had already been fighting for a couple of years. Why is this never seen as part of WW2? Because until Japan's allies and the UK and France got involved (indirectly through Germany invading Poland) it was just another in a line of wars in that area caused by a weak china, a rapidly modernised and open Japan which, along with Russia held expansionist ideas. rather than part of the greater conflict. It was the successor to the first sino-Japanese war and Russian-Japanese war of 1905 which allowed Japan to have hegemony over north east Chiana rather than the Russkies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nsr Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 Japan and China had already been fighting for a couple of years. Why is this never seen as part of WW2? I guess because most of the world weren't involved until later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chomp my root Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 Today's the 75th Anniversary of the start of the Second World War (for us, anyway, the Poles started two days earlier), but there doesn't seem to be any official acknowledgement of it. Is it because this year also the 100th Anniversary of the commencement of The Great War, and the Second War is being sidelined? Actually it was yesterday! If they rebranded it like they did with WW1 then it might be a bit sexier, when it's stood next to the 'Great' war it looks a bit meh, if they called it the 'Super' war then it might get a bit more attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supermik Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 Might get a cheeky wee number from here to celebrate! http://www.ww2sale.com/wwii-german-uniforms/?gclid=COmpnY_Ex8ACFaYIwwodhTYARA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Half Rice Half Chips Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 One of those rare instances where the sequel was actually better than the original, though it went on a bit longer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbornbairn Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 One of those rare instances where the sequel was actually better than the original, though it went on a bit longer. Tbf, the sequel was in colour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supermik Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 Had an uncle in my extended family who is buried in Italy after being killed there in the war. It's on my bucket list to visit his grave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 Because until Japan's allies and the UK and France got involved (indirectly through Germany invading Poland) it was just another in a line of wars in that area caused by a weak china, a rapidly modernised and open Japan which, along with Russia held expansionist ideas. rather than part of the greater conflict. It was the successor to the first sino-Japanese war and Russian-Japanese war of 1905 which allowed Japan to have hegemony over north east Chiana rather than the Russkies. Japan wasn't involved with British Empire or France until after the fall of the latter in 1940. The bottom line is that the same argument applies to a predominantly local Germany v France, Germany v Poland, Britain impotently using its navy square-off in September 1939; the reason why the Asian war isn't considered the start is solely down to a Eurocentric narrative for the conflict. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Bezzer! Posted September 6, 2014 Share Posted September 6, 2014 Japan wasn't involved with British Empire or France until after the fall of the latter in 1940. The bottom line is that the same argument applies to a predominantly local Germany v France, Germany v Poland, Britain impotently using its navy square-off in September 1939; the reason why the Asian war isn't considered the start is solely down to a Eurocentric narrative for the conflict. You've clearly forgotten about the Battle of River Plate, fought in South American waters between the Royal Navy and the Kriegsmarine in 1939. Any major war involving Britain at this time was a World War due to the size of the empire and Britain's merchant navy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Dufresne Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 My wife's Gramps was a Bren gunner in WW2,he was left behind at Dunkirk to cover the retreat and was captured. He spent 5 years in a POW camp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supermik Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 The wife's uncle got captured at Dunkirk as well. They were probably in the same prison/Stalag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgecutter Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 My wife's Gramps was a Bren gunner in WW2,he was left behind at Dunkirk to cover the retreat and was captured. He spent 5 years in a POW camp. My grandad was gunned down on Sword Beach during the D-Day landings. Only reason he survived was because the line of machine gun bullets missed all the vital organs and some guy I owe my existence to dragged him back onto the boat. The last commemoration was rather surreal for me when I saw a giant screen zoomed into his face being shown on BBC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 The wife's uncle got captured at Dunkirk as well. They were probably in the same prison/Stalag. I'll check my granda's list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Archer (Raconteur) Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 You have to admire a man that could make gravy under gunfire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cracowjambo Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 I'll check my granda's list. You're old enough to have been there surely? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 You're old enough to have been there surely? He took me to his work sometimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jock001 Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 Second World war. Started by Jacks Granda. It says so in the thread title. What a dick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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