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14 hours ago, stan3600 said:


He did start Hilson. Hilson cannot play lone striker. Hilson is a trooper who gives 100% but not good enough at this level.

 

Sure lone striker and failing to change things up and try a different formation, given Hilsons 5ft 8 if lucky, hitting hopeless balls up top clearly isnt going to be everyones style. Infact it only works with bigger guys like Nouble or Hamilton.

That is on DC and his inability to change formation, or get the best out of players, the guy tactically is so poor, Hancock at left wing, when hes a centre half is nothing short of a joke. 

Mckenna has played that grim shift up top and failed as has many others, dont you think it might be a managerial tactical problem? Rather than a player problem.

We have much of the same starting 11 as last year, but the manager cant get anyone to play this season for one reason or another.

 

 

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42 minutes ago, RedLichtie86 said:

Dont worry. We have plenty in the bank. 5 seasons in the Championship with the extra prize money, season tickets, higher sponsorship income and increased crowds has certainly helped.

Last published financials up until May 2021 had us with over £1m in the bank. And thats before we finished 2nd last season.

Even if Allan is on silly money (£1.4k p/w i have been told) we are not in any danger of financial meltdown.

I know your not in any financial trouble your club doing great off the pitch at the moment same as Montrose first time in a good few years we are pretty stable aswell and have some cash in the bank.

I think if DC was to go in the next few months you lot would go for Tam Courts if he was still available.SP wouldn't tarnish his reputation with Montrose going to you lot right now.I think he might end up at you at some point in his managerial just not straight from Montrose.

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Can see Little being away, think having a family now will make that decision for him, he would go with most fans best wishes, absolute club legend,

Campbell will be a legend for everything he has done for us, you just hope he doesn't ruin it, Not one fan expected us to have a season like last,  but this season has been a mess on and off the pitch and he unfortunately has to take the blame, just like he got all the praise last season, 

Everyone's first choice would be for him to turn it around, but the recruitment last few windows has been awful, 

Like it's been said the club is in a good place off the pitch and the whole town seems to be behind them and there would be plenty good candidates to take over if things don't turn around 

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It’s not just the recruitment that’s the problem although it’s obviously a big factor. It’s also the tactics; chopping and changing the lineup every week so no continuity; bizarre substitutions - 5 at once, too late in the game or too early, midfielders for strikers, taking off players playing well etc etc and most importantly imo, the refusal to play strikers.

I am convinced that if we had played with Linn and Shanks/Isiaka all game, every game then we would be sitting on at least 4 or 5 more points than now. Those extra few points could make all the difference come May.

Dick would be getting a lot more sympathy and patience if only he would play to win every game.

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Where’s Dick’s tombola for team selections going to stop on Saturday?

Heard someone say a 6 nil win to “paper over the cracks” at Firhill yesterday - absolute sh*te & if the management & players are in that mindset I am very concerned.

This will be the Broch’s cup final. Not the team of last season but they had a massive confidence boost yesterday by beating Buckie.

Bellslea a tight pitch with similar elements to Gayfield & the Broch have players that can do damage - they are no mugs & will scrap for absolutely everything.

Scott Barbour the main danger, Highland League player of the year & top scorer last season. Will most likely come in off the left & knows where the goal is. Not frightened to have a go direct from corners if the wind is favourable.

 

Long high punts to a lone striker won’t be the answer either as that will be food & drink to Hay & Simpson their two centre halves.

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I agree with a lot of points raised here. My personal gripe has been the lack of continuity in the team selection, the incomprehensible substitutions, the naive tactic of playing a lone striker and lumping high balls up the park for him to chase and not learning from mistakes made in the said points.  So I'm glad to read that I'm not alone in that.

But does the coaching staff have no input? Are they not aware of the poor decisions made by the manager regarding these selections, tactic and subs or do they live in the same altered reality as the manager? Or are they worried that they will get the "Bobby Linn treatment" if they question him?

I recently posted that there were still plenty of points to play for and was optimistic that we could avoid relegation but in that short space of time I am coming to accept the fact that we will be relegated. A lot of the good work done by the board will be undone with reduced income from falling ticket and season ticket sales.

Regarding Scott Allen, who I like as a footballer, you will get the best of him in a footballing side who play a passing game. The long ball game does not suit his style of play and he has not adapted to it.

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I thought that we were poor yesterday but still won comfortably so if I was an Arbroath fan I would be worried! Still there is hope, the worst team I have seen this season was Morton and look what they have done since we hammered them 5-1. The league this season is full of bang average sides and anyone of half a dozen sides could win it. As for Tom O’Brien, plenty of rumours saying we are getting him in January with one, possibly two of our current centre backs possibly exiting at the same time!

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Am i right in thinking that we face the prospect of losing Little, ToB, Linn, Gold and Hilson if the club or player decide not to offer/sign a new contract.

Little will be 34.
ToB nearing 32
Linn nearing 38
Gold 30
Hilson 30.

Not to mention Jacobs will be nearing 34, McKenna 32
Allan 31


I was very upset that we let Henderson go. He is a talented younger defender and seemed to me a great start to renewing our ageing back 4. When he did play centre back, left back or defensive midfield he was excellent but Dick played him in the left wing which must have been annoying. I know he wanted full time football but if it was clear that he had a big future with us he may have stayed.

Of late Dick has relied on long time stalwarts and loan signings with little or no thought of the future.
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We have not recovered or adjusted to losing players such as Craigen, Henderson, Hamiton, Low, Wighton, Jack Hamilton and Thomson.

New signings Oakley, Tait, Bitsindou and Allan have all been good - but they have not settled into a working relationship due to so many changes each week in the team's formation - players need time to gel.

Injuries, suspensions, loss of form , bizarre substitutions and lack of quality strikers ( only 10 goals scored out of 16 games) means we are sitting at the wrong end of the table.

In January a few of the under performing players will be released, I would expect at least 4-5 new players incoming ( two of whom will need to be quality strikers).

Between now and January we need to focus on closing the 5 point gap with Cove and ensure we stay above Hamilton.

DC has been the club's 2nd most successful manager for the past 50 years and took us all on an amazing journey last season - this season the journey is about avoiding relegation and regrouping for next season.

Bobby Linn will play a major role with what happens this season - he scores goals, sets up assists, and is great at set pieces - he is also an inspiration for the rest of the players, a club legend and one of Arbroath greatest players in living memory.

What happens in the January window will define this season - but worth noting that other clubs in this league will hid a rough spell too and on our day we can beat any team in this league ( but we urgently need a couple of strikers).

So, where are these strikers coming from ? They will almost certainly be loan players, chances are we won't have heard of them before, but who had heard of Joe Nouble or Jack Hamilton before they joined ?

And we will need these new signings in early January - no time to wait until late January.

 

 

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9 minutes ago, CoveRangers1922 said:

Arbroath sold out their allocation of tickets for playing the Broch? I'm hoping to go up to Bellslea instead of going to Balmoral. Don't mind being in the home or away end.

Not sure but I know they were still on general sale the other day. If we’d been doing a bit better then we would have sold out easily. Fitba fans are fickle as we all know. Check out our website.

Even I’m not going and I live in Aberdeen and have friends from the Broch but I just need a break from the misery. Absolutely nailed on that we’re losing this and I can’t face another soul destroying Saturday afternoon at the moment.

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18 minutes ago, clashcityrocker said:

So, where are these strikers coming from ? They will almost certainly be loan players, chances are we won't have heard of them before, but who had heard of Joe Nouble or Jack Hamilton before they joined ?

Cillian Sheridan seems out of favour at Dundee, potentially him? Not clinical but could probably do a job for you lot.

There's talk of Matthew Cudjoe wanting away from United, not a striker but definitely someone who can make something out of nothing.

Nadir Ciftci is still without a club after being released by St. Johnstone in the summer, certainly a goalscorer in the Championship if he's anything like his past self.

Jahmal Hector-Ingram is another who was released by St. Johnstone in the summer, he didn't actually ever play for The Saints but he scored a goal every 261' in PL2.

All pretty well-known names,  3 of which on a free but if Arbroath are desperate I'm sure something can be done.

 

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Cillian Sheridan seems out of favour at Dundee, potentially him? Not clinical but could probably do a job for you lot.
There's talk of Matthew Cudjoe wanting away from United, not a striker but definitely someone who can make something out of nothing.
Nadir Ciftci is still without a club after being released by St. Johnstone in the summer, certainly a goalscorer in the Championship if he's anything like his past self.
Jahmal Hector-Ingram is another who was released by St. Johnstone in the summer, he didn't actually ever play for The Saints but he scored a goal every 261' in PL2.
All pretty well-known names,  3 of which on a free but if Arbroath are desperate I'm sure something can be done.
 
We seem to be waiting til January to sign these mystery players so can rule out pretty much all free agents out there.
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